Filed 7/17/13
                             CERTIFIED FOR PUBLICATION

                IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

                               SIXTH APPELLATE DISTRICT

THE PEOPLE,                                           H038349
                                                     (Santa Clara County
        Plaintiff and Respondent,                     Super. Ct. No. C1198906)

        v.

JOHN PIRALI,

        Defendant and Appellant.


        Defendant John Pirali pleaded no contest to a charge of felony possession of child
pornography (Pen. Code, § 311.11).1 On appeal, defendant challenges probation
conditions restricting his access to the Internet and forbidding him from possessing or
purchasing sexually explicit materials or pornography as overbroad and
unconstitutionally vague. For the reasons set forth below, we modify the condition
restricting his access to the Internet to include a knowledge requirement, and further
modify the condition restricting his purchase and possession of sexually explicit or
pornographic materials with the requirement that he is forbidden from possessing and
purchasing these items having been told by the probation officer that such items are
sexually explicit or pornographic. As modified, we affirm the judgment.
                         FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
        In October 2008, defendant was served with a search warrant pursuant to an auto
insurance fraud investigation. Defendant‟s computer was taken to a computer analyst,
who discovered the existence of possible child pornography on one of the seized hard


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            Further unspecified statutory references are to the Penal Code.
drives. The computer analyst requested that another search warrant be obtained to search
for child pornography, as the parameters of the original search warrant only concerned
auto insurance fraud. A search warrant was obtained to search for child pornography on
the computer.
       The district attorney filed an information charging defendant with a count of
felony possession of child pornography (§ 311.11) in August 2011. Defendant
subsequently entered a plea of nolo contendere on February 16, 2012. As part of his plea,
the trial court placed defendant on three years formal probation.2 The trial court imposed
several conditions of probation, among others, that defendant now challenges on appeal
during the sentencing hearing.
       “You‟re not to enter any social networking sites, nor post any ads, either electronic
or written, unless approved by probation officer [sic].”
       “You‟re to report all personal e-mail addresses used and shall report Web sites and
passwords to the probation officer within five days.”
       “You‟re ordered not to purchase or possess any pornographic or sexually explicit
material as defined by the probation officer.”
       “You are not to have access to the Internet or any other on-line service through use
of your computer or other electronic device at any location without prior approval of the
probation officer. And shall not possess or use any data encryption technique program.”
       No objection was made to the imposed probation conditions. Defendant filed a
timely notice of appeal on May 25, 2012, and subsequently filed an amended notice of
appeal on June 8, 2012.

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         During the sentencing hearing, the trial court also imposed various fees and
fines, including a $259.50 booking fee and a probation supervision fee not to exceed
$110 a month during the period of probation. In a letter dated December 17, 2012,
defendant withdrew his claim that there was insufficient evidence of his ability to pay
these fees.


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                                  STANDARD OF REVIEW
       A court of appeal may review the constitutionality of a probation condition, even
when it has not been challenged in the trial court, if the question can be resolved as a
matter of law without reference to the sentencing record. (In re Sheena K. (2007) 40
Cal.4th 875, 888-889 (Sheena K.).) Our review of such a question is de novo. (In re
Shaun R. (2010) 188 Cal.App.4th 1129, 1143.)
                                        DISCUSSION
       Defendant challenges two of his probation conditions on the grounds that they are
unconstitutionally vague and overbroad. First, defendant challenges the probation
condition restricting his Internet access. Second, defendant challenges the probation
condition forbidding him from purchasing or possessing pornographic or sexually explicit
material as defined by the probation officer. We address each of defendant‟s arguments
in turn.
       1. Probation Condition Restricting Internet Access
       The probation condition restricting defendant‟s Internet access, as pronounced by
the court, states: “You are not to have access to the Internet or any other on-line service
through use of your computer or other electronic device at any location without prior
approval of the probation officer.” (Italics added.) In a written attachment to the minute
order placing defendant on probation, the Internet-related restriction is stated as: “The
defendant shall not access the Internet or any other on-line service through use of a
computer, or other electronic device at any location (including place of employment)
without prior approval of the Probation Officer. The defendant shall not possess or use
any data encryption technique program.” (Italics added.) We note that there is a
difference between the oral condition of probation imposed by the trial court and the
written condition as set forth in the minute order. In People v. Gabriel (2010) 189
Cal.App.4th 1070, this court stated that “[w]hen there is a discrepancy between the

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minute order and the oral pronouncement of judgment, the oral pronouncement controls.”
(Id. at p. 1073.) In People v. Freitas (2009) 179 Cal.App.4th 747, the appellate court
decided to review “the more inclusive oral pronouncement” instead of the written
probation order signed by the judge. (Id. at p. 750, fn. 2.)
       However, as the Supreme Court has reasoned in People v. Smith (1983) 33 Cal.3d
596, though the older rule is to give preference to the reporter‟s transcript where there is a
conflict, the modern rule is that if the clerk‟s and reporter‟s transcript cannot be
reconciled, the part of the record that will prevail is the one that should be given greater
credence in the circumstances of the case. (Id. at p. 599; People v. Harrison (2005) 35
Cal.4th 208, 226.) In People v. Thrash (1978) 80 Cal.App.3d 898, the appellate court
held that probation conditions “need not be spelled out in great detail in court as long as
the defendant knows what they are; to require recital in court is unnecessary in view of
the fact the probation conditions are spelled out in detail on the probation order.” (Id. at
pp. 901-902.)
       Here, we find that the oral conditions of probation control in light of the
circumstances. The trial judge did not mention the written probation conditions in the
hearing, absent a comment in the beginning that the “recommendations in the reports
appear to be consistent with the negotiated plea.” Furthermore, neither the trial judge nor
defendant signed the written probation conditions. We therefore cannot find that the
written conditions were meant to control and override the conditions imposed orally by
the court. Accordingly, we review the oral conditions imposed by the trial court during
the sentencing hearing.
       On appeal, defendant argues that the Internet restriction is unconstitutionally
overbroad and should also be stricken as the other Internet and computer-related
probation conditions imposed are sufficient to serve the state‟s interests. Defendant also



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contends that the probation condition is unconstitutionally vague. We first address
defendant‟s arguments concerning overbreadth.
              A. Overbreadth
       “A probation condition that imposes limitations on a person‟s constitutional rights
must closely tailor those limitations to the purpose of the condition to avoid being
invalidated as unconstitutionally overbroad.” (Sheena K., supra, 40 Cal.4th at p. 890.)
“The essential question in an overbreadth challenge is the closeness of the fit between the
legitimate purpose of the restriction and the burden it imposes on the defendant‟s
constitutional rights--bearing in mind, of course, that perfection in such matters is
impossible, and that practical necessity will justify some infringement.” (In re E.O.
(2010) 188 Cal.App.4th 1149, 1153.)
       Although a probation condition may be overbroad when considered in light of all
the facts, only those constitutional challenges presenting a pure question of law may be
raised for the first time on appeal. (Sheena K., supra, 40 Cal.4th at pp. 888-889.) The
Supreme Court has made it clear that not all constitutional defects in conditions of
probation may be raised for the first time on appeal; some questions cannot be resolved
without reference to the particular sentencing record developed in the trial court. (Id. at
p. 889.)
       Preliminarily, the People contend that defendant‟s failure to object to the probation
condition to the trial court forfeited his argument on appeal, as the validity of the
probation condition does not present a pure question of law. We disagree with the
People‟s argument of forfeiture, as defendant‟s position is that the Internet restriction is
unduly overbroad and a violation of his First Amendment rights. Such an argument does
not rely on facts in the sentencing record, and presents a pure question of law. We do
find, however, that defendant has forfeited any such claim that the probation condition is
unreasonable due to his failure to object below. (Sheena K., supra, 40 Cal.4th at p. 889.)

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Accordingly, defendant‟s argument that the conditions are not necessary because the
other imposed Internet and computer-related restrictions are sufficient to serve the state‟s
interest is forfeited. Defendant‟s argument on this point is essentially one of
reasonableness, and is specific to the circumstances of his underlying offense and
whether the broader Internet prohibition would deter future criminality.
       We also find no merit to defendant‟s contention that the existence of the other, less
restrictive Internet and computer-related probation conditions renders the broader Internet
condition superfluous or contradictory. It is defendant‟s argument that the restriction on
his access to social networking sites, and the condition requiring him to turn over Web
site and password information, contradict the broader condition forbidding him from
having access to the Internet without prior approval. A similar argument was presented
to the appellate court in In re Victor L. (2010) 182 Cal.App.4th 902 (Victor L.), which
involved several computer-related probation conditions imposed on a minor defendant.
Two of the conditions forbade the minor from accessing social networking sites such as
MySpace or Facebook, and another condition required all Internet access to be
supervised. (Id. at p. 926.) The court concluded that “[s]o interpreted, [the conditions‟]
overlap is neither incomprehensible nor contradictory. They limit [minor‟s] access to the
Internet in ways designed to minimize the temptation to contact his gang friends or
otherwise use the computer for illegal purposes by requiring adult supervision whenever
he goes online.” (Ibid.)
       However, the Victor L. court did find that a third Internet-related probation
condition imposed on the minor, which stated that “ „[t]he Minor shall not use, possess or
have access to a computer which is attached to a modem or telephonic device‟ ” (Victor
L., supra, 182 Cal.App.4th at p. 923), conflicted with the other two Internet conditions
that required all Internet use to be supervised and restricting access to social networking
sites. (Id. at pp. 926-927.) The court then struck the language prohibiting “use” and

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“access” to a computer, leaving only the condition that the minor could not possess a
computer attached to a modem. (Ibid.)
       Here, the probation conditions challenged by defendant, when considered together,
are not inherently contradictory or superfluous. Defendant is subject to Internet
restrictions that require prior approval before having access to the Internet, as well as
restrictions against accessing social networking sites. This is analogous to the two
conditions deemed not to be incomprehensible and contradictory in Victor L., namely the
condition imposed on the minor defendant that required supervision of Internet access
and the condition restricting access to social networking sites. Accordingly, we find no
merit to defendant‟s argument that read together, the Internet restrictions are superfluous
or contradictory.
       We now turn to the question of whether or not the Internet restrictions imposed on
defendant are unconstitutionally overbroad. We note that access to computers and the
Internet have been recognized by courts as increasingly important. “Computers and
Internet access have become virtually indispensable in the modern world of
communications and information gathering.” (U.S. v. Peterson (2nd Cir. 2001) 248 F.3d
79, 83.) Additionally, appellate courts have found that computers and Internet both “
„comprise[] the “backbone” of American academic, governmental, and economic
information systems.‟ ” (In re Stevens (2004) 119 Cal.App.4th 1228, 1234 (Stevens).)
Accordingly, as defendant asserts, certain restrictions on “access to the Internet
necessarily curtail First Amendment rights.” (Id. at p. 1235.) It therefore follows that
probation conditions restricting or prohibiting the use of a computer, or restricting or
prohibiting access to the Internet, “must closely tailor those limitations to the purpose of
the condition to avoid being invalidated as unconstitutionally overbroad.” (Sheena K.,
supra, 40 Cal.4th at p. 890; see Stevens, supra, at p. 1237.)



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       In support of his argument that the probation condition significantly curtails his
rights, defendant cites to Stevens, in which the Second Appellate District reviewed and
considered a parole condition that broadly prohibited use of the computer and the
Internet. The defendant in Stevens pleaded guilty to the crime of committing lewd
conduct on a child under the age of 14. (Stevens, supra, 119 Cal.App.4th at p. 1231.)
After his release from prison, Stevens was placed on parole and was subject to the
condition that he “ „shall not possess or have access to computer hardware or software
including the internet.‟ ” (Ibid.) Stevens objected to the condition as unreasonable, and
the appellate court agreed. (Id. at p. 1239.) The court noted that though there was a
legitimate concern that a “released child molester‟s unfettered access to a computer might
result in criminal conduct,” there could be more focused prohibitions on Stevens‟ Internet
and computer use in place of a blanket ban that would achieve the same goals of
supervision and protection for the public. (Ibid.)
       Nonetheless, as defendant concedes, courts have also permitted probation
conditions and parole conditions limiting computer and Internet access in cases where the
limitation is not a blanket prohibition, and in cases where the Internet played a role in the
underlying offense. For example, in In re Hudson (2006) 143 Cal.App.4th 1, the First
Appellate District upheld a parole condition that prohibited Hudson from possessing or
having access to computers, the Internet, or camera equipment absent permission from
the Department of Adult Parole Operations (DAPO). (Id. at p. 4.) The court
distinguished the case from Stevens by noting that unlike the defendant in Stevens,
Hudson deliberately prevented authorities from searching his computer while on
probation and also deliberately encrypted his computer and withheld passwords. (Id. at
pp. 10-11.) Furthermore, unlike the parole condition contemplated in Stevens, the
condition at issue in Hudson was not a blanket prohibition as Hudson would be allowed



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to use the computer and access the Internet so long as he first received permission from
the DAPO. (Ibid.)
       Likewise, the appellate court in People v. Harrisson (2005) 134 Cal.App.4th 637
upheld a probation condition imposed that prohibited defendant from access to the
Internet and from possessing any Internet device after the defendant pleaded no contest to
felony possession of child pornography. (Id. at pp. 639-640.) Harrisson objected to the
probation condition before the trial court, and the appellate court found that the probation
condition was not constitutionally overbroad. (Id. at pp. 642, 647.) The court, in
upholding the condition, distinguished the case from Stevens in so much that unlike the
Stevens defendant, Harrisson utilized the Internet to send pornographic images and solicit
sex with a minor, that he had also spoken with a therapist about a “vengeful, thought-out
plan to murder the prosecutor,” and that Harrisson was violating the ban on Internet
access. (Id. at p. 647.) The court thereafter found the prohibition against Internet usage
was “reasonably related” to Harrisson‟s offense, and was “necessary to the important
dual goals of deterrence and protection of the public.” (Ibid.)
       Defendant here is challenging a probation condition, not a parole condition as
discussed in Stevens and Hudson. Nonetheless, we find these cases discussing the
validity of Internet and computer-related prohibitions in both the parole and probation
context persuasive as to what type of prohibitions on Internet access should be deemed
constitutionally overbroad. Here, like the parole condition contemplated in Hudson,
defendant is not faced with a blanket prohibition. The probation condition clearly grants
defendant the ability to access the Internet on his computer and other electronic devices
so long as he obtains prior permission from his parole officer. This makes the probation
condition distinguishable from the parole condition discussed in Stevens, and less
restrictive than the probation condition discussed in Harrisson that was deemed valid.
Defendant may still use the Internet and a computer while at home, or at his place of

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employment. Defendant may also still continue to access and use the Internet for e-mail,
and other methods of online communication, subject to prior approval by his probation
officer.
       Accordingly, we find that there is no constitutional overbreadth with respect to
this restriction.3
               B. Vagueness
       Defendant next advances the argument that the prohibition against having access
to the Internet is unconstitutionally vague. “ „Inherent in the very nature of probation is
that probationers “do not enjoy „the absolute liberty to which every citizen is entitled.‟ ”
[Citation.] Just as other punishments for criminal convictions curtail an offender‟s
freedoms, a court granting probation may impose reasonable conditions that deprive the
offender of some freedoms enjoyed by law-abiding citizens.‟ (United States v. Knights
(2001) 534 U.S. 112, 119.) Nevertheless, probationers are not divested of all
constitutional rights. „A probation condition “must be sufficiently precise for the
probationer to know what is required of him, and for the court to determine whether the
condition has been violated,” if it is to withstand a [constitutional] challenge on the
ground of vagueness. . . .‟ (Sheena K., supra, 40 Cal.4th at p. 890.)” (People v. Barajas
(2011) 198 Cal.App.4th 748, 753.)
       Defendant argues that the condition is unconstitutionally vague because it lacks a
knowledge requirement, and because the phrase “other electronic devices at any location”
lacks the requisite specificity. We agree in part. First, we agree that without an express

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        Some federal courts have upheld similar restrictions on a defendant‟s Internet
access. (See U.S. v. Rearden (9th Cir. 2003) 349 F.3d 608, 613-619; U.S. v. Zinn (11th
Cir. 2003) 321 F.3d 1084, 1093.) Nonetheless, we note that not all federal courts are in
agreement, as other courts have held that such restrictions are invalid. (See U.S. v. Sofsky
(2nd Cir. 2002) 287 F.3d 122, 126; U.S. v. Freeman (3rd Cir. 2003) 316 F.3d 386, 391-
392.)


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knowledge requirement, defendant could unwittingly violate the condition as there are
situations in which he may not know he has access to or has accessed the Internet.
Therefore, we modify the probation condition to add a requirement that defendant must
knowingly have access to the Internet. (Sheena K., supra, 40 Cal.4th at p. 890.)
       In their reply brief, the People suggest we adopt the Third Appellate District‟s
approach in People v. Patel (2011) 196 Cal.App.4th 956. In Patel, the Third District
considered a probation condition forbidding defendant from drinking or possessing
alcohol, or being in a place where alcohol is the chief item of sale, was invalid because
the condition lacked an express knowledge requirement. (Id. at p. 959.) The court
expressed its frustration with the “dismaying regularity” to which it must revisit the issue
of a lack of an express scienter requirement in orders of probation. (Id. at p. 960.) The
court noted that since there exists a substantial uncontradicted body of case law that
establishes that a “probationer cannot be punished for presence, possession, association,
or other actions absent proof of scienter,” it would no longer entertain the issue on
appeal. (Ibid.) The Third Appellate District then stated that going forward, it would
construe every such probation condition proscribing restrictions on presence, possession,
association, or other actions with the requirement that the action be undertaken
knowingly. (Id. at p. 961.)
       Nonetheless, a number of the courts of appeal have declined to follow the rationale
of Patel, including the Fourth Appellate District in People v. Moses (2011) 199
Cal.App.4th 374, 381, where the court chose to modify the probation conditions to
include a knowledge requirement. We too decline to follow the Third Appellate
District‟s approach in Patel. Our Supreme Court faced the issue of the lack of a
knowledge requirement in a probation condition and concluded that “modification to
impose an explicit knowledge requirement is necessary to render the condition
constitutional.” (Sheena K., supra, 40 Cal.4th at p. 892.) Until our Supreme Court rules

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differently, we will follow its lead on this point. (Auto Equity Sales, Inc. v. Superior
Court (1962) 57 Cal.2d 450, 455.)
       However, as to defendant‟s other vagueness argument, we do not find that the
phrase “other electronic devices” is constitutionally infirm. As defendant posits, use of a
smart phone, a Kindle, or even a swipe of his credit card may inadvertently put him on
the Internet. The People concede this issue, stating that use of the Internet through lawful
financial transactions should not be prohibited under the challenged condition. The
People suggest that we modify the condition of probation to state that such transactions
are not prohibited “provided they are lawful and not in violation of the other conditions
of probation.” We disagree with the necessity of the People‟s suggested modification.
The probation condition, modified with an express knowledge requirement, is sufficient
to put defendant on notice for his actions. As modified with the express scienter
requirement, defendant would not be found in violation of the Internet condition if he
unknowingly has access to the Internet while using a computer or electronic device like
an electronic reader or a smart phone, or unknowingly has access to the Internet when
engaged in some sort of financial transaction. As modified, defendant would only violate
the condition if he knowingly has access to the Internet without prior approval from the
probation officer. With the requirement of knowledge explicit in the condition, the
various scenarios posited by defendant demonstrating the condition‟s alleged vagueness
will not be an issue.
       2. Probation Condition on Pornographic or Sexually Explicit Material
       Defendant also challenges the constitutionality of the probation condition
prohibiting him from purchasing or possessing pornographic or sexually explicit
materials as defined by the probation officer. He argues that the condition is vague and
lacks specificity, and that without an express knowledge requirement he would be unable
to know what the condition forbids. We agree with defendant‟s arguments.

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          As previously discussed, a probation condition “ „must be sufficiently precise for
the probationer to know what is required of him, and for the court to determine whether
the condition has been violated.‟ ” (Sheena K., supra, 40 Cal.4th at p. 890.) Here, we
find the probation condition does not sufficiently provide defendant with advance
knowledge of what is required of him. The fact that the probation officer may deem
material sexually explicit or pornographic after defendant already possesses the material
would produce a situation where defendant could violate his probation without adequate
notice.
          We find People v. Turner (2007) 155 Cal.App.4th 1432 instructive on this point.
The court in Turner evaluated a probation condition that the defendant “ „[n]ot possess
any sexually stimulating/oriented material deemed inappropriate by the probation officer
and/or patronize any places where such material or entertainment is available.‟ ” (Id. at
p. 1435.) The court held that the phrase “ „sexually stimulating/oriented material deemed
inappropriate by the probation officer‟ ” was an “inherently imprecise and subjective
standard,” and that as a result was not “materially distinguishable by the probation
condition in Sheena K. forbidding association with anyone disapproved of by the
probation department.” (Id. at p. 1436.) The court then modified the probation condition
to read: “ „Not possess any sexually stimulating/oriented material having been informed
by the probation officer that such material is inappropriate and/or patronize any places
where such material or entertainment in the style of said material are known to be
available.‟ ” (Ibid.) As modified, the court held that the probation condition was not
unconstitutionally vague or overbroad. (Id. at pp. 1436-1437.)
          We find that the probation condition prohibiting defendant‟s purchase or
possession of pornography or sexually explicit material suffers from the same defect
articulated by the court in Turner. Materials deemed explicit or pornographic, as defined
by the probation officer, is an inherently subjective standard that would not provide

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defendant with sufficient notice of what items are prohibited. Following the court‟s
rationale in Turner, we modify the condition such that defendant is prohibited from
purchasing or possessing pornography or sexually explicit materials, having been
informed by the probation officer that such items are pornographic or sexually explicit.
                                       DISPOSITION
       The first part of the probation condition restricting Internet access is modified to
state: “You are not to knowingly have access to the Internet or any other on-line service
through use of your computer or other electronic device at any location without prior
approval of the probation officer.”
       The probation condition prohibiting purchase or possession of pornographic or
sexually explicit materials is modified to state: “You‟re ordered not to purchase or
possess any pornographic or sexually explicit material, having been informed by the
probation officer that such items are pornographic or sexually explicit.”
       As modified, the judgment is affirmed.



                                                               Premo, J.



       WE CONCUR:



              Rushing, P.J.



              Elia, J.




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Trial Court:                          Santa Clara County Superior Court
                                      Superior Court No. C1198906

Trial Judge:                          Hon. Jerome M. Brock

Attorneys for Plaintiff/Respondent:   Kamala D. Harris
The People                            Attorney General

                                      Dane R. Gillette
                                      Chief Assistant Attorney General

                                      Gerald A. Engler
                                      Senior Assistant Attorney General

                                      Catherine A. Rivlin
                                      Supervising Deputy Attorney General

                                      Allan Yannow
                                      Deputy Attorney General

Attorneys for Defendant/Appellant:    Under appointment by the Court of Appeal
John Pirali                           Maria T. Rogers
