                                       2014 IL App (1st) 133870
                                             No. 1-13-3870
                                      Opinion filed August 27, 2014
                                                                       Third Division
     ______________________________________________________________________________

                                                 IN THE

                                  APPELLATE COURT OF ILLINOIS

                                            FIRST DISTRICT

     ______________________________________________________________________________

     In re                                      )
     DAVEISHA C., a Minor,                      )
                                                     Appeal from the Circuit Court
           Respondent-Appellant,                )
                                                     of Cook County.
                                                )
     (The People of the State of Illinois,      )
                                                     No. 13 JA 500
            Petitioner-Appellee,                )
                                                )
                                                     The Honorable
     v.                                         )
                                                     Bernard J. Sarley,
                                                )
                                                     Judge, presiding.
     Latoya C.,                                 )
            Mother-Respondent).                 )
     __________________________________________________________________________

            PRESIDING JUSTICE HYMAN delivered the judgment of the court, with opinion.
            Justices Neville and Mason concurred in the judgment and opinion.


                                                  OPINION

¶1          This interlocutory appeal contests, as an unreasonable and improper restraint on

     discovery, a protective order involving copies of the recording of a victim sensitive interview

     (VSI) of the public guardian's client, a minor and victim of sexual abuse. The juvenile court

     entered the protective order barring, without leave of court, the public guardian from copying his

     copy of the VSI and requiring all copies turned over to the State's Attorney's office after

     completion of any appeals.
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¶2       The public guardian argues the protective order wrongly prohibits it from full access to its

     client's interview. Alternatively, the public guardian contends that even if properly entered, the

     protective order should have allowed the Public guardian, as the minor's attorney and guardian at

     litem, to retain a copy of the VSI for its files at the conclusion of the case.

¶3           We hold the trial court did not abuse its discretion in granting the protective order which

     allowed all parties' counsel to receive a copy of the minor's VSI on signing an acknowledgment

     of the protective order. The trial court properly recognized the sensitive nature of the minor's

     recorded interview and the need for strict protective measures. We do not find the protective

     order unreasonable under the facts nor do we find unreasonable either (i) the prohibition barring

     further copying without leave of court or (ii) the requirement that the Public guardian return his

     copy (or, potentially, copies) after all appeals had been decided.

¶4                                            BACKGROUND

¶5           Minor Daveisha C., born on April 30, 2008, came to the attention of the Department of

     Children and Family Services (DCFS) through a hotline call reporting allegations that her

     stepfather used inappropriate corporal punishment and subjected her to cruelty, and that her

     mother, Latoya C., failed to protect her. The State filed a petition for adjudication of wardship,

     naming Daveisha's mother and stepfather, David F. The State's petition alleged Daveisha was

     neglected and abused. A motion for temporary custody accompanied the petition.

¶6       The State alleged that the mother accumulated five indicated reports "for inadequate

     supervision, inadequate shelter, environmental neglect, inadequate food and substantial risk of

     physical injury/environment injurious to health/welfare by neglect/abuse." In addition, she

     refused to attend domestic violence classes, complete a mental health assessment, and undergo

     anger management counseling. As for the stepfather, who was in need of substance abuse


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       counseling, he had one indicated report for substantial risk of physical injury/environment

       injurious to health/welfare by neglect involving Daveisha and two sisters and three brothers.

       Daveisha and her siblings told authorities their stepfather often would hold them upside down

       and whip them, something their mother refused to believe. The stepfather scared the siblings,

       and one of them reported a swollen eye after a whipping. Paternity remained an issue and the

       whereabouts of the putative father were not known.

¶7            On May 23, 2013, DCFS took temporary protective custody of the children.

¶8            A week later, the juvenile court held a temporary custody hearing concerning Daveisha.

       The court appointed Cook County Public Guardian Robert F. Harris (hereinafter, Public

       Guardian) as Daveisha's attorney and guardian ad litem. In doing so, the court marked a box on

       the appointment form order stating that the attorney and guardian ad litem "shall have access to

       all relevant documents." The court appointed the public defender of Cook County to represent

       Daveisha's mother, Latoya. The court found probable cause existed to believe Daveisha was

       abused and neglected or both, and that an immediate and urgent necessity existed to remove her

       from the home.     The court appointed the DCFS guardianship administrator as Daveisha's

       temporary custodian.

¶9            In June, DCFS clinicians completed an integrated assessment concerning Daveisha, her

       siblings, mother, and stepfather. Daveisha's foster mother reported that Daveisha frequently

       became upset and cried during the day without a trigger.

¶ 10          Daveisha participated in a victim sensitive interview at the Chicago Children's Advocacy

       Center (CCAC). The CCAC is a child-focused program composed of a multidisciplinary team of

       members of the special investigations unit of the youth investigations division of the Chicago

       police department, the Cook County State's Attorney's office, DCFS, and Cook County Hospital.


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       During the VSI, Daveisha stated she was sexually abused. Daveisha's VSI was electronically

       recorded.

¶ 11          Daveisha's case was continued while paternity was addressed and the parties participated

       in mediation.   As the case moved toward adjudication, the State and the Public Guardian

       subpoenaed records, including those from the CCAC.

¶ 12          On October 30, 2013, the State informed the juvenile court that Daveisha had participated

       in a VSI at the CCAC in July. The State said that before tendering a copy of the recorded

       interview to the parties, it sought entry of a proposed protective order similar to protective orders

       entered by the court in other cases. (Related appeals from protective orders entered by the same

       juvenile court judge are pending before this court. See In re Candise W., Nos. 13-3279 and 13-

       3335 (cons.)). The Public Guardian requested a written motion; the State agreed to file one.

¶ 13          The State's motion to enter the protective order relied on Illinois Supreme Court Rule

       201(c), under which a court may enter a protective order "as justice requires." Ill. S. Ct. R.

       201(c) (eff. Jan. 1, 2013). The State noted that Daveisha's interview included statements by her

       that she had been sexually abused and details about what had happened. The State maintained

       that it was not seeking to deny the parties the opportunity to inspect or view the VSI. Rather, the

       State wanted to tender the discovery only under an order that would protect the interview's

       sensitive nature.   Specifically, the State maintained that the interview was as sensitive as

       pornography because Daveisha discussed the specifics of the sexual abuse and, therefore, the

       interview should be maintained and preserved with the same strict measures. The State cited

       section 1-2 of the Juvenile Court Act of 1987 (Act) (705 ILCS 405/1-2 (West 2012)), and stated

       that it was seeking the protective order "in the spirit of humane concern for this minor and as a

       measure to protect this minor's best interests to ensure that this sensitive information is secured."


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       The motion detailed the strict procedures the State's Attorney's office followed once the VSI was

       received from the CCAC and alleged that neither the guardian at litem nor Daveisha's mother

       could offer the same safeguards. The State noted that without a protective order, nothing would

       prevent the parties from making additional copies of the VSI or from saving portions of it to a

       computer, increasing the chance that unauthorized individuals could access it.

¶ 14          The State further assured that the proposed protective order allowed the parties full

       access to the VSI on agreeing to the acknowledgement. As to all copies of the VSI being

       returned at the end of the case, the State submitted that the VSI should be limited to the pending

       juvenile proceeding. Attached to its motion were a proposed protective order and a proposed

       acknowledgement of the protective order.

¶ 15          Thereafter, the Public Guardian filed a motion seeking leave to file a supplemental

       petition for adjudication of wardship alleging that Daveisha was sexually abused.

¶ 16          On December 6, 2013, the juvenile court heard both the State's motion for a protective

       order and the Public Guardian's motion for leave to file a supplemental petition. The court

       granted the Public Guardian's motion to file a supplemental petition without objection. The

       protective order, however, was entered over the Public Guardian's objections.

¶ 17          The Public Guardian contended that the VSI contained evidence directly related to the

       supplemental petition and, as such, he had a right to have a copy of it for trial. Moreover, the

       protective order placed an unreasonable restraint on his access to discovery concerning his client,

       improperly enjoined him from copying the DVD for potential experts without court approval,

       and improperly required the copy's return after final disposition of any appeals.

¶ 18        Responding to the court's inquiry about how the DVD was made, the State explained that

       the CCAC had the original DVD, which the State subpoenaed, and after receiving it, kept the


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       DVD in a locked safe box in the State's Attorney's office. In response to another inquiry from

       the court, the State indicated that the procedures in this case were consistent with the procedures

       used in other cases where DVDs were made and motions for protective orders were filed.

¶ 19          Then, the court asked the Public Guardian whether its motion for a supplemental petition

       for adjudication of wardship made this case different. The Public Guardian insisted he "should

       have unlimited access to all of the evidence that would support [his] motion," and that without

       unlimited access, preparation of the case would be unduly burdened. The court responded, "Of

       course, if you sign the order, you would have access to the DVD prior to trial." To this, the

       Public Guardian replied,

                      "Right. Our office's position is that we will not sign the acknowledgment. Prior

                      to trial, I understand that. But I also believe that this could be relevant to anything

                      posttrial. It could be relevant to my client's treatment. As you're well aware in

                      cases, different service providers are in and out of our client's cases. So different

                      service providers might want access to that DVD. I think it's only prudent for the

                      attorney for the child in question to have a copy of the DVD."

¶ 20          On behalf of Daveisha's mother, the assistant public defender told the court he did not

       have a position, but was prepared to sign a receipt for the DVD.

¶ 21          In granting the protective order, the juvenile court noted that its decision followed rulings

       in previous cases, and commented:

                      "I feel that it is in the best interest of the minor to enter the protective order for the

                      protection of the minor and to guard against the DVD getting into the wrong

                      hands. I don't believe that any of the parties' rights to prepare for trial or ability to

                      prepare for trial are hampered by the entering of the protective order. The GAL,


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                      if they wish, could sign the acknowledgement and have access to the DVD to

                      prepare for trial. The issues that have been stated as to future use of the DVD

                      after trial, either by therapists or later on if the minor for some reason wanted to

                      have access to the DVD, could be addressed, in that, in those situations the GAL

                      or the minor could seek leave of Court to get access to the DVD. Additionally, in

                      this situation, even if the GAL chose not to have—to sign the acknowledgement

                      and get a copy of the DVD, they could even, prior to trial, go to the State's

                      Attorney's Office and view the DVD as a less favored alternative."

¶ 22          The assistant public defender signed the acknowledgement of receipt of the protective

       order; the Public Guardian refused. (The protective order is appended to the end of this opinion.)

¶ 23          The Public Guardian seeks to vacate the protective order or, alternatively, remand the

       case to the juvenile court with instructions to modify the order to allow full access for party

       agents and for the Public Guardian to retain a copy of Daveisha's VSI.

¶ 24                                               ANALYSIS

¶ 25          Supreme Court Rule 307(a)(1) allows review of an order granting or denying injunctive

       relief; in this case, a protective order entered during the discovery phase of the proceedings. Ill.

       S. Ct. R. 307(a)(1) (eff. Feb. 26, 2010).

¶ 26          The Public Guardian argues that the acknowledgment is not in Daveisha's present or

       future best interest because (i) the supplemental petition's claims of sexual abuse gives him the

       right to receive a copy of Daveisha's recorded VSI without strings attached; and (ii) review of the

       recorded VSI at the State's Attorney's office with Daveisha and professional staff of his office,

       would undermine confidentiality by infringing on his ethical duties to Daveisha and improperly

       disclosing attorney work product.


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¶ 27          Trial courts have wide discretion in matters of discovery, including the entry of

       protective orders. Payne v. Hall, 2013 IL App (1st) 113519, ¶ 11. As the gatekeeper of

       discovery, the trial court must fairly weigh the competing needs and interests of the parties

       affected by the discovery. Avery v. Sabbia, 301 Ill. App. 3d 839, 845 (1998) (citing Seattle

       Times Co. v. Rhinehart, 467 U.S. 20, 36 (1984)). To accomplish the purpose of discovery, the

       rules should be applied with flexibility. Avery, 301 Ill. App. 3d at 845 (citing May Centers, Inc.

       v. S.G. Adams Printing & Stationery Co., 153 Ill. App. 3d 1018, 1021 (1987), citing Sarver v.

       Barrett Ace Hardware, Inc., 63 Ill. 2d 454, 461-62 (1976)).

¶ 28         Under Illinois Supreme Court Rule 201(c), a court may enter a protective order, either at

       the request of a party or on its own motion, "as justice requires." Ill. S. Ct. R. 201(c) (eff. Jan. 1,

       2013). Whether justice requires a protective order, and the parameters of that order, falls within

       the discretion of the trial court. Payne, 2013 IL App (1st) 113519, ¶ 12 (citing Willeford v. Toys

       "R" Us-Delaware, Inc., 385 Ill. App. 3d 265, 273 (2008)). We review the entry of the protective

       order under an abuse of discretion standard, and unless convinced that the judge's entry of this

       order amounted to an abuse of discretion, we are without authority to reverse. Avery, 301 Ill.

       App. 3d at 844.

¶ 29            The Public Guardian, relying on Skolnick v. Altheimer & Gray, 191 Ill. 2d 214, 226

       (2000), argues that the juvenile court's refusal to modify the protective order constitutes an abuse

       of discretion because the court's requirement that he sign an acknowledgement with which he

       does not agree, prevents him from fulfilling his ethical duties to his client. Further, as worded,

       unless he signs the acknowledgement, the protective order intrudes on his confidential review of

       the VSI with Daveisha or a "necessary professional, in preparation for trial and possible

       testimony, or for any other legitimate purpose."


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¶ 30          In Skolnick, a protective order covering information received during discovery prevented

       an attorney from fulfilling her duty to report attorney misconduct. The circuit court denied the

       attorney's request to modify the protective order so she could disclose the misconduct to the

       Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission. Skolnick, 191 Ill. 2d at 218-19, 224. The

       Illinois Supreme Court held the trial court abused its discretion, noting that "[i]n the absence of

       any stated justification for refusing to modify the protective order, the interests of justice weigh

       decidedly in favor of allowing [the attorney] to fulfill her ethical duty to disclose the alleged

       attorney misconduct." Skolnick, 191 Ill. 2d at 226.

¶ 31          Skolnick is readily distinguishable. In Skolnick, the attorney could only fulfill her duty in

       one way—by reporting the misconduct to the ARDC. In contrast, under the protective order, the

       Public Guardian had several options that would allow him to fulfill his ethical obligations to

       Daveisha. As the juvenile court noted, even if the Public Guardian chose not to sign the

       acknowledgment and get his own copy of the recorded VSI, "they could even, prior to trial, go to

       the State's Attorney's Office and view the DVD as a less favored alternative." We agree.

¶ 32          Further, the Public Guardian contends his status as the petitioner grants him the right to

       receive a copy of Daveisha's recorded VSI, which is undermined by the protective order's

       acknowledgement requirement and contrary to the discovery rules, relying on Illinois Supreme

       Court Rule 201(b)(1) (eff. Jan. 1, 2013) (provides for full disclosure of any relevant matter)

       together with Illinois Supreme Court Rule 907(b) (eff. July 1, 2006) (provides a child's attorney

       and guardian at litem shall have access to all relevant documents),

¶ 33          The State responds that choosing not to sign the acknowledgement is not the same as as

       being denied full access to Daveisha's VSI—the acknowledgement provides full access by giving

       the Public Guardian an actual copy of the VSI.


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¶ 34          The trial court held the Public Guardian's status as a petitioner granted no additional

       rights or responsibilities and is irrelevant to his having a physical copy of the VSI. We agree.

       Nothing in the protective order prevents the Public Guardian from being afforded discovery

       consistent with the supreme court rules. By its nature, a protective order regarding discovery

       will in some way limit or restrict use. The Public Guardian can have full access to the VSI, just

       not full control. The question of control is squarely an issue for the court to decide whenever a

       party presents it with a motion for a protective order.

¶ 35                               Good Cause Underlying Protective Order

¶ 36          Next, the Public Guardian contends there was no good cause or valid reason for the

       protective order. The Public Guardian agrees that Daveisha's recorded VSI contains sensitive

       material in that she discusses the specifics of the sexual abuse. Yet, the Public Guardian

       maintains that because a purpose of a protective order is to prevent abuse during discovery

       (Payne, 2013 IL App (1st) 113519, ¶ 15), and the State never made an offer of proof about what

       specific abuses it sought to protect, the Act and the Illinois Rules of Professional Conduct of

       2010 provide sufficient protection for the recorded VSI. There was no suggestion that any party

       intended to abuse the discovery process here. Accordingly, this argument provides no basis for

       reversal.

¶ 37                              Juvenile Court Act as Sufficient Protection

¶ 38          The Public Guardian maintains that the Juvenile Court Act carries sufficient protections

       for the VSI and, therefore, the protective order was unnecessary and unduly burdensome. The

       Public Guardian directs our attention to three sections of the Act, sections 1-5(6), 1-7 and 1-8.

       705 ILCS 405/1-5(6), 1-7, 1-8 (West 2012).




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¶ 39          Section 1-5(6) directs that juvenile court proceedings are "closed to the general public."

       705 ILCS 405/1-5(6) (West 2012).         This section, however, does not offer protection for

       Daveisha's VSI outside the context of the juvenile court hearing.

¶ 40          The Public Guardian also cites section 1-7 of the Act, which provides for the

       confidentiality of law enforcement records, those maintained by "law enforcement agencies" that

       relate to a minor who has been arrested or taken into custody. 705 ILCS 405/1-7 (West 2012).

       As the State points out, only "law enforcement records" are protected under section 1-7 and,

       therefore, because the VSI is not a law enforcement record, the section does not apply.

¶ 41          Section 1-8 addresses the inspection and copying of "juvenile court records." 705 ILCS

       405/1-8 (West 2012). The Public Guardian contends that because the inspection and copying of

       the records is narrowly restricted and not available to the general public, the VSI is sufficiently

       protected. The State points out, however, that "juvenile court records" include only what has

       actually been entered into the court record, not discovery documents and, therefore, the VSI

       would not be protected under section 1-8. See Skolnick, 191 Ill. 2d at 236 ("discovery is distinct

       from documents that are filed with the court").

¶ 42          As the State argued in its motion for the protective order, "the [Act] does not provide

       protection or govern the confidentiality of what is contained in an attorney's personal file."

       Moreover, "the Act fails to prescribe a sanction for a violation of its confidentiality provisions."

       Camco, Inc. v. Lowery, 362 Ill. App. 3d 421, 431 (2005). The protective order provides that any

       violation "may result in sanctions by [the juvenile court], including contempt, and may be

       punishable by state or federal law," a safeguard lacking in the Act.

¶ 43          We are unpersuaded the trial court abused its discretion by finding the provisions of the

       Act insufficient and that a protective order was necessary to protect Daveisha's best interests.


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¶ 44                   Illinois Rules of Professional Conduct of 2010 as Sufficient Protection

¶ 45            The Public Guardian also argues the Illinois Rules of Professional Conduct provide

       sufficient protection for the VSI. He cites Rule 1.6(a), which directs that a lawyer shall not

       reveal information relating to the representation of a client, and paragraph 16 in the comments,

       which provides that a lawyer "must act competently to safeguard information relating to the

       representation of a client against inadvertent or unauthorized disclosure by the lawyer or other

       person who are participating in the representation of the client or who are subject to the lawyer's

       supervision." Ill. R. Prof. Conduct (2010) R. 1.6(a), Committee Comments,¶ 16 (eff. Jan. 1,

       2010).    The Public Guardian also cites Rule 1.9 and argues that even after juvenile court

       proceedings close, the attorney must keep information relating to the representation confidential.

       Ill. R. Prof. Conduct (2010) R. 19 (eff. Jan. 1, 2010).

¶ 46            The State contends the Illinois Rules of Professional Conduct do not go far enough to

       restrict access to the VSI because only lawyers are bound by the rules. The State argues that

       because of the sensitive nature of the recorded VSI and the ease with which it can be copied and

       distributed, the juvenile court properly exercised its discretion to determine that the Rules of

       Professional Conduct provided inadequate protection.

¶ 47            The Public Guardian contends that there is no evidence in the record that the attorneys

       representing the parties cannot adequately protect the sensitive nature of the VSI. Yet, in

       response to the State's detailing of the strict procedures followed by the State's Attorney's office

       in securing the VSI from the CCAC before the juvenile court, the Public Guardian offered no

       information about any precautions its office would take to protect the VSI.            Counsel for

       Daveisha's mother presented no argument and agreed to sign the acknowledgement to receive the

       VSI.


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¶ 48          The State contends the protective order is consistent with the Act's directive that courts

       apply the Act "in a spirit of humane concern, not only for the rights of the parties, but also for the

       fears and the limits of understanding of all who appear before the court." 705 ILCS 405/1-2(2)

       (West 2012). The State maintains that by entering the protective order, the juvenile court used

       its discretion to act in Daveisha's best interest by protecting against invasion of her privacy and

       recognized the necessity for greater protection of the VSI.

¶ 49          Acknowledging there is no case law directly on point in Illinois, the State looks to other

       courts in which similar issues have been considered. The State cites New Jersey v. Scoles, 69 A.

       3d 559, 563-64 (N.J. 2013), in which the Supreme Court of New Jersey addressed how to

       balance the defense's need for meaningful access to the evidence in a child pornography

       prosecution, specifically, computer images of the alleged child pornography, against society's

       interest in protecting child pornography victims from the risk of unnecessary harm. The Scoles

       court made plain it was not questioning the professionalism of the criminal defense bar, but

       needed to assess whether defense counsel had "the practical capacity to comply with technical

       restrictions that the court should impose to maintain the security of the copies of computer

       images provided to the defense team." Scoles, 69 A. 3d at 572. In suggesting a framework for

       future courts in looking at this issue and crafting a protective order, the Scoles court held that

       defense counsel must show their willingness and ability to comply with the terms of a court-

       issued protective order designed to secure the computer images from intentional or unintentional

       distribution beyond those individuals authorized by the court to use the material. Scoles, 69 A.

       3d at 573.

¶ 50          The State maintains the juvenile court properly exercised its discretion by entering the

       protective order to ensure heightened protection for Daveisha's VSI, finding the protections


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       afforded by the Act and the Illinois Rules of Professional Conduct were not enough. As Scoles

       suggests, the State urges us to hold that in a case where sensitive material is the subject of a

       discovery dispute, the court need not have evidence that an attorney intends to misuse the

       evidence in violation of ethical rules before it can properly enter a protective order.

¶ 51          We agree.      In doing so, we recognize that Scoles is not binding and is factually

       distinguishable as a criminal case, which addresses concerns not relevant to juvenile court

       proceedings in Illinois. Nevertheless, we find instructive for our purposes the court's discussion

       about "the general right to discovery as it intersects with the flexibility afforded to the trial court,

       on a showing of good cause, to guard against unnecessary harm brought about through a

       defendant's access to discovery." Scoles, 69 A. 3d at 571. While stressing the importance of the

       exchange of pretrial discovery, the Scoles court cautioned that the re-victimization of child

       victims is a real concern that must be prevented. Scoles, 69 A. 3d at 572. The court emphasized

       careful consideration of defense counsel's ability to secure sensitive material from intentional or

       unintentional dissemination by unauthorized individuals. Scoles, 69 A. 3d at 572. Although in a

       completely different context from criminal child pornography, we agree with the State that the

       juvenile court followed a similar approach to the Scoles court—by considering limited

       safeguards to     preclude possible re-victimization while still preserving counsel's right to

       discovery.

¶ 52           Illinois Supreme Court Rule 201 (eff. Jan. 1, 2013) grants the trial court broad discretion

       to "make a protective order as justice requires." The protective order here directly relates to Rule

       201's goal of "regulating discovery to prevent unreasonable annoyance, expense, embarrassment,

       disadvantage, or oppression." Ill. S. Ct. R. 201(c)(1) (eff. Jan. 1, 2013). Additionally, the




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       juvenile court may properly enter an order of protection necessary to protect the "health, safety

       and best interests of the minor" under section 2-25 of the Act. 705 405/2-25 (West 2012).

¶ 53          We find no abuse of discretion in the juvenile court's conclusion that a protective order

       was appropriate based on the facts. As the juvenile court stated, the protective order does not

       impermissibly impede the parties' ability to prepare for trial. The court properly found that

       "justice" required the entry of the protective order, despite the slight inconvenience to the parties,

       to protect Daveisha's best interest.

¶ 54                                  Modification of the Protective Order

¶ 55          The Public Guardian argues the protective order lacks specificity and clarity. Pointing

       out that juvenile court proceedings are civil in nature (705 ILCS 405/2-18(1) (West 2012)), the

       Public Guardian directs our attention to the language in the order stating that the VSI may be

       used in "the defense" of this case. The Public Guardian argues the protective order as written is

       not tailored to a civil proceeding, but "appears to be based on a form used in a criminal

       proceeding."

¶ 56          The Public Guardian also takes issue with the order not referring to the date of Daveisha's

       VSI and its failure to identify whether Daveisha's VSI was recorded on tape, disc, or DVD and

       whether the recording was audio or visual. The Public Guardian likens the protective order to a

       "blanket order" and argues that as such, it is inherently subject to challenge.

¶ 57          We agree with the State that the alleged defects in the protective order are of no

       consequence and offer no reason to vacate, let alone modify, the protective order.

¶ 58          The Public Guardian argues that even if the protective order was properly entered, it

       should be modified to allow "full access for party agents" and to allow the Public Guardian to

       retain copies of the VSI. The Public Guardian contends that as written, the protective order


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       prohibits its employees, such as investigators, child interviewers, paralegals, social workers,

       psychologists, expert witnesses, consulting experts and other attorney/party agents from

       disclosing, displaying, copying or distributing the VSI.        The Public Guardian argues that

       precluding attorney and party agents from having the same full right of access to the recorded

       VSI as the assigned attorney and guardian at litem is "unreasonable, unnecessary, and contradicts

       the language of Rule 201(c)(1)."

¶ 59          As a reviewing court, we will alter the terms of a protective order only if no reasonable

       person could adopt the view taken by the circuit court. Skolnick, 191 Ill. 2d at 224 (citing

       Cleveringa v. J.I. Case Co., 230 Ill. App. 3d 831, 848 (1992)).

¶ 60          The Public Guardian asks us to remand with instructions that the juvenile court modify

       the order to include language similar to that found in Bush v. Catholic Diocese of Peoria, 351 Ill.

       App. 588, 593 (2004). He suggests:

                      "No person, other than an attorney or agents of an attorney representing a party to

                      this proceeding, and the keeper of the record, shall review the digital audio and

                      visual record of this forensic interview, or any portion thereof."

          The Public Guardian asserts that by including language of this sort, the protective order

          would not be so overbroad and would allow the parties full pretrial investigation and

          discovery. The Public Guardian contends that without the proposed language, the protective

          order requires him to obtain prior court approval before accessing or disclosing the VSI to a

          consulting expert, which would apprise his opponent of the Public Guardian's trial strategy

          and encroach on attorney work product.




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¶ 61            The State disagrees with the Public Guardian's assertion that party agents are denied full

       access to Daveisha's VSI under the protective order. The State points to the language of the

       protective order covering the ability of an assistant public guardian who receives a copy of the

       VSI to share it with other Public Guardian employees, as well as expert witnesses helping to

       prepare the case for trial:

                       "The [recorded VSI] shall not be exhibited, shown, disclosed or displayed to any

                       person or used in any fashion by any party to this action except in a judicial

                       proceeding or as may be directly necessary in the preparation of the defense of

                       this action." (Emphasis added.)

       The State maintains that leave of court is required only if the attorney seeks to make a new copy

       to give to the expert, but the attorney's copy may be shared with an expert without prior court

       permission. The State replies to the Public Guardian's argument that he would be tipping his

       hand if he requested an additional copy of the VSI for an expert, by suggesting the Public

       Guardian loan his copy to the expert or file his request for an additional copy under seal and seek

       an ex parte determination that such copying is allowed. We agree with the State's reading of the

       order.

¶ 62            The Public Guardian also argues the protective order should be modified to allow the

       Public Guardian to permanently retain a copy of Daveisha's VSI. As written, the protective order

       requires the Public Guardian to return the recorded VSI within 10 days of his withdrawal from

       the case and within 30 days from the completion of all appeals or within 30 days of the

       dispositional order if no appeal is filed.

¶ 63            The Public Guardian argues it has record retention policies and practices sufficient to

       protect the minors it serves. The Public Guardian contends that it should be allowed to maintain


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       a copy of Daveisha's VSI in its files because the information could assist the Public Guardian in

       the future in advocating for services for Daveisha or other members of her family.

¶ 64          The Public Guardian expresses concern that because there is no provision in the

       protective order requiring the State to retain Daveisha's recorded VSI after the disposition

       hearing, there is no guarantee it will do so. Correctly, in granting the protection order, the

       juvenile court rejected this argument. The court ruled that the protective order was in the best

       interests of Daveisha and "the GAL or the minor could seek leave of Court to get access to the

       DVD" if the need arose in the future. Moreover, any concern regarding permanent retention can

       be clarified by motion.

¶ 65          In sum, the trial court did not abuse its discretion by finding that the protective order's

       limits on copying and retention of the VSI were necessary to protect Daveisha's best interests.

       We find the limits reasonable.

¶ 66                                            CONCLUSION

¶ 67          The Public Guardian has failed to demonstrate that an abuse of discretion occurred in

       granting the protective order. Under its terms, the protective order allows all parties' counsel to

       receive a copy of the minor's recorded interview, which includes statements of sexual abuse, but

       bars counsel from copying the recording without leave of court and requires the return of any

       copies, after adjudication, disposition, or any appeal. In entering the protective order, the trial

       court recognized that the sensitive nature of the minor's recorded interview required heightened

       safeguards while also providing all parties with full access to the VSI to prepare their case.

¶ 68          Affirmed.

¶ 69                                     Attachment: The Protective Order




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               "1. The [recorded VSI] shall not be exhibited, shown, disclosed, or displayed

            to any person or used in any fashion by any party except in a judicial proceeding

            or as may be directly necessary in the preparation of the defense of this action.

            Except that in the course of providing therapeutic services to the minor, the

            minor's therapist and DCFS Clinician shall be permitted to view DCFS legal

            attorney's copy of said [VSI], either alone or in the presence of the minor. When

            said [VSI] is being viewed for these purposes, it may be viewed outside the

            presence and without the direct supervision of the DCFS legal attorney, guardian

            at litem, and attorney for the minor. Attorney for DCFS shall instruct the minor's

            therapist and DCFS Clinician that no copies may be made and that the video is

            not to be shared with anyone outside of the therapeutic setting.

               2. No copies of the [VSI] shall be made by counsel for any party except as

            may be directly necessary in the preparation of the defense of this case. Counsel

            for all parties shall obtain leave of court prior to making any copies of the [VSI].

            At the conclusion of the case, counsel for all parties shall account for any copies.

               3. The DVD copy or copies of the [VSI] shall be returned to the Cook County

            State's Attorney's Office within 10 days of any attorney's withdrawal from the

            case. All copies of said [VSI] shall be returned to the Cook County State's

            Attorney's Office within 30 days of the completion of all appeals or within 30

            days of the dispositional hearing order if no appeal is filed.

               4. The parties may personally review the discovered materials only in the

            direct presence and under the direct supervision of counsel.




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               5. Under no circumstances shall any party personally be given any of the

            materials or copies of the materials to retain in his or her possession including

            cases involving pro se litigants.

               6. This protective order shall be applicable to any party, any attorney for any

            party, any translator for any party, any investigator, expert witness, agent or

            representative or any party.

               7. A copy of this protective order shall accompany any copy made of the

            discovered materials and the recipient shall sign an acknowledgement that such

            person has read the order and agreess to be bound thereby. (See exhibit "A") This

            signed form shall be filed with the court by all counsel.

               8. Any violation of this order may result in sanctions by this court, including

            contempt, and may be punishable by state or federal law."




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