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                 UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
                                   FOR THE SIXTH CIRCUIT
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 GENORA JONES, as the Personal
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 Representative of the Estate of CLAYTON
 JONES,                                              -
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           v.
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 SCOTT BYRNES, et al.,
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                      Appeal from the United States District Court
                     for the Eastern District of Michigan at Detroit.
                      No. 07-12756—Sean F. Cox, District Judge.
                                    Argued: October 9, 2009
                            Decided and Filed: November 9, 2009
                 Before: MARTIN, GUY, and McKEAGUE, Circuit Judges.

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                                            COUNSEL
ARGUED: Joel B. Sklar, LAW OFFICE, Detroit, Michigan, for Appellant. Joseph
Nimako, CUMMINGS, McCLOREY, DAVIS & ACHO, P.L.C., Livonia, Michigan, for
Appellees. ON BRIEF: Joel B. Sklar, LAW OFFICE, Detroit, Michigan, for Appellant.
Joseph Nimako, CUMMINGS, McCLOREY, DAVIS & ACHO, P.L.C., Livonia, Michigan,
for Appellees.
        The court delivered a PER CURIAM opinion. MARTIN, J. (pp. 11-13), delivered
a separate opinion concurring in the disposition of this case.
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                                             OPINION
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       PER CURIAM. Genora Jones brings this action under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 against two
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police officers of the Redford Township, Michigan police department on behalf of the



       1
           Redford Township is a suburb of Detroit.


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estate of her husband, Clayton Jones. The officers were engaged in a high-speed car
chase of two men suspected of armed robbery on January 23, 2006 around 5:00 a.m.
The suspects extinguished their car’s headlights approximately four miles into the chase,
presumably to make it more difficult for the police to see their car. The effect was also
to make their car difficult for oncoming traffic to see in pre-dawn light. The chase
proceeded for approximately two more miles until the fleeing suspects collided with
Jones as he turned into a gas station on his way to work. Jones died as a result of the
collision.

        His estate sued the officers, alleging that they deprived Jones of his Fourteenth
Amendment substantive due process rights when the officers failed to suspend the chase
after the suspects extinguished the car’s headlights. The officers asserted qualified
immunity. The district court entered summary judgment for the officers, finding that the
officers’ actions did not “shock the conscience” as required by Lewis v. County of
Sacramento, 523 U.S. 833 (1998). The court further found that, even if the officers’
conduct did “shock the conscience” for purposes of a violation of Jones’s substantive
due process rights, the officers were entitled to qualified immunity because it was not
clearly established at the time of the incident that the officers’ conduct violated those
rights. The estate appeals, and we AFFIRM.

                                             I.

        In the early morning of January 23, 2006, Officers Byrnes and Lentine of the
Redford Township police force were in their patrol car. Officer Lentine was the driver.
At approximately 5:00 a.m., the officers received a call from dispatch reporting an armed
robbery at a 7-11 convenience store and that two black male suspects were fleeing on
foot. The officers drove towards the store.

        As they approached the 7-11, the officers saw a Ford Taurus traveling at a high
speed for that area, between fifty-five and sixty miles per hour. The officers claim that
the route the Taurus was driving is a well-known escape route used in previous crimes
in that area. Given the proximity to the 7-11, the high speed, and the supposedly well-
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known escape route, the officers suspected that the Taurus was a getaway car for the
robbers.

        Officer Lentine turned on the cruiser’s overhead lights and fell in behind the
Taurus to attempt to pull it over. Instead of pulling over, the Taurus sped up. Officer
Lentine turned on the cruiser’s siren and advised police dispatch that the suspects were
attempting to flee. A video of the chase taken by the police cruiser’s on-board camera
shows that it was still dark outside at the time. However, there was some ambient light
from street lamps and businesses. Traffic was relatively light, but the roads were by no
means deserted. Pedestrian traffic appears to have been very light.

        The chase proceeded with speeds reaching sixty to seventy miles per hour. The
Taurus ran several red lights and stop signs, and the officers followed suit. The officers
witnessed the driver and passenger of the Taurus throwing objects out of the windows
at various points during the chase.2 Approximately four miles into the chase, the driver
of the Taurus extinguished its headlights and continued to flee.

        Although later acknowledging that the driver’s decision to turn off the headlights
escalated the risk to others, the officers continued the chase. The chase proceeded
approximately two miles further. The Taurus approached a red light at the intersection
of 9 Mile Road and Lahser in Southfield, Michigan. At that time, Jones was driving in
the opposite direction on his way to work. As Jones turned left at the stoplight into a gas
station, the Taurus ran the red light and collided with Jones’s car. Tragically, Jones died
from the collision.

        As relevant to this appeal, Jones’s estate filed suit under 42 U.S.C. § 1983,
alleging that the officers’ conduct—namely, their decision to continue the high-speed
chase after the suspects had turned off the headlights of the Taurus—violated Jones’s
Fourteenth Amendment substantive due process right to be free from arbitrary
deprivation of life and liberty at the hands of state actors. The estate contends that the


        2
         Though unknown to the officers at that time, the discarded items turned out to be a gun and
ammunition and, later, money.
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officers’ actions violated various local traffic ordinances as well as numerous
departmental policies concerning pursuit. The officers dispute this assertion, and there
has been no finding that the officers violated any law or policy.

        The officers raised the defense of qualified immunity and, after some discovery,
the district court entered summary judgment for the officers. The court found no
constitutional violation and, in the alternative, that even if there was a violation the right
was not clearly established. Jones v. Lentine, No. 07-12756, 2008 U.S. Dist. LEXIS
50502 (E.D. Mich. June 30, 2008). Jones timely appealed.

                                              II.

        This appeal arises from the district court’s order granting summary judgment for
defendants. We review the district court’s grant of summary judgment de novo. Blair
v. Henry Filters, Inc., 505 F.3d 517, 523 (6th Cir. 2007). Summary judgment should be
granted only when “the pleadings, the discovery and disclosure materials on file, and any
affidavits show that there is no genuine issue as to any material fact and that the movant
is entitled to judgment as a matter of law.” Fed. R. Civ. P. 56(c). When we review a
motion for summary judgment, we must view all facts and inferences in the light most
favorable to the non-moving party. Matsushita Elec. Indus. Co. v. Zenith Radio Corp.,
475 U.S. 574, 587 (1986).

                                              III.

        Government officials, including police officers, are immune from civil liability
unless, in the course of performing their discretionary functions, they violate the
plaintiff’s clearly established constitutional rights. Hills v. Kentucky, 457 F.3d 583, 587
(6th Cir. 2006). Until recently, the analytical sequence in addressing an assertion of the
qualified immunity defense was the two-step sequential inquiry set forth in Saucier v.
Katz, 533 U.S. 194 (2001). Under Katz, a court first had to ask whether, viewed in the
light most favorable to plaintiff, the facts show that the officer’s conduct violated a
constitutional right. 533 U.S. at 201. If the answer to this first question was “no,” the
analysis proceeded no further because the plaintiff failed to establish a prima facie case
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of violation of a constitutional right; thus the officer need not even seek the protection
of qualified immunity. Id.; Parsons v. City of Pontiac, 533 F.3d 492, 500 (6th Cir.
2008); Turner v. Scott, 119 F.3d 425, 429 (6th Cir. 1997).

        If, however, the facts established a violation of the plaintiff’s constitutional
rights, Katz mandated that the next step was to determine whether the constitutional right
was “clearly established” at the time of the violation. If not, the officer would be entitled
to qualified immunity. Katz, 533 U.S. at 201. Under the “clearly established” inquiry,
the question is whether the right was “so ‘clearly established’ that a reasonable official
would understand that what he is doing violates that right.” Parsons, 533 F.3d at 500
(quoting Charvat v. E. Ohio Reg’l Wastewater Auth., 246 F.3d 607, 616 (6th Cir. 2001)).
“This inquiry . . . must be undertaken in consideration of the specific context of the case,
not as a broad general proposition . . . . ” Katz, 533 U.S. at 201. Previously, this Court
has included a third inquiry to “increase the clarity” of the Katz analysis: “whether the
plaintiff offered sufficient evidence to indicate that what the official allegedly did was
objectively unreasonable in light of the clearly established constitutional rights.” Floyd
v. City of Detroit, 518 F.3d 398, 405 (6th Cir. 2008) (quoting Estate of Carter v. City of
Detroit, 408 F.3d 305, 311 n.2 (6th Cir. 2005)).

        However, in Pearson v. Callahan, __ U.S __, 129 S. Ct. 808 (2009), the Supreme
Court recently abandoned Katz’s requirement that courts address all qualified immunity
inquiries sequentially. Id. at 813. The Court recognized that the lower courts had
complained that the sequential mandate was cumbersome and often forced courts to
decide constitutional questions unnecessarily, and also recognized that the sequential
mandate was impossible to force on any given judge’s thought process. On the other
hand, the Court found that the Katz inquiry was still appropriate and a correct statement
of the test for qualified immunity. Thus, the Court held that “while the sequence set
forth [in Katz] is often appropriate, it should no longer be regarded as mandatory. The
judges of the district courts and the courts of appeals should be permitted to exercise
their sound discretion in deciding which of the two prongs of the qualified immunity
analysis should be addressed first in light of the circumstances in the particular case at
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hand.” Id. at 818. This generally means that “we are free to consider those questions
in whatever order is appropriate in light of the issues before us,” Moldowan v. City of
Warren, 570 F.3d 698, 720 (6th Cir. 2009), such that we need not decide whether a
constitutional violation has occurred if we find that the officer’s actions were
nevertheless reasonable. However, because Pearson left in place Katz’s core analysis,
all pre-Pearson case law remains good law.

                                             IV.

A.    Has the Estate Established a Violation of Jones’s Right to Substantive Due
                                    Process?
       The first question in the qualified immunity analysis is whether the plaintiff has
established a prima facie case of a constitutional violation. The estate alleges that the
officers’ conduct violated Jones’s substantive due process rights guaranteed him by the
Fourteenth Amendment. Thus, we must first review the law of substantive due process
claims in order to assess whether the estate has established a prima facie case. More
specifically, we must be familiar with the analysis used in scenarios involving police
chases resulting in harm to suspects or third persons.

       Generally speaking, the Fourteenth Amendment’s due process provision has a
substantive component that guarantees “protection of the individual against arbitrary
action of government.” Wolff v. McDonnell, 418 U.S. 539, 558 (1974). Of course, this
is a broad proposition that must be applied to various scenarios where government action
coincides with individual life and liberty.        One such scenario occurs when law
enforcement pursues a suspect of a crime and either the suspect or third parties are
injured.

       The seminal case on point is the Supreme Court’s 1998 decision in Lewis. In
Lewis, the Court confronted a scenario in which the police chased suspects fleeing on
a motorcycle. The individuals on the motorcycle were not suspected of any felony;
instead, the officers had seen the motorcycle speeding and had told its driver to stop.
When the motorcycle sped off, the officers initiated a chase. The chase lasted over one
minute and reached speeds of one hundred miles per hour, with the police officer
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following very closely behind the motorcycle. When the driver attempted to turn, the
motorcycle flipped and threw both the driver and his passenger. The chasing police
officer could not slow down or veer in time to avoid hitting the passenger, who was
pronounced dead at the scene. 523 U.S. at 836-37. There was evidence that, in
continuing the police chase, the officer had violated several intra-department guidelines
regarding chases, such as engaging in a high-speed chase to apprehend a suspect of a
relatively minor crime. Id. at 838-39.

       The estate of the deceased passenger brought a section 1983 claim alleging
violation of the passenger’s substantive due process rights. The Ninth Circuit had held
that recklessness or deliberate indifference was the test for finding a substantive due
process violation. The Supreme Court reversed and held that, in the context of a police
chase that results in injury, the test is whether the officer’s actions “shock the
conscience.” Id. at 846-47. The Court further defined actions that can be said to shock
the conscience as those that are motivated by an “intent to harm suspects physically or
to worsen their legal plight” in a manner unrelated to the legitimate object of arrest. Id.
at 836, 854.

       The Court explained that the “shock the conscience” standard is unrelated to tort
concepts of fault, “but rather points clearly away from liability, or clearly towards it,
only at the ends of the tort law’s spectrum of culpability” and that “the due process
guarantee does not entail a body of constitutional law imposing liability whenever
someone cloaked with state authority causes harm.” Id. at 848.

       In the context of police chases, the Court stated that “[a] police officer deciding
whether to give chase must balance on one hand the need to stop a suspect and show that
flight from the law is no way to freedom, and, on the other, the high-speed threat to
everyone within stopping range, be they suspects, their passengers, other drivers, or
bystanders.” Id. at 853. Using these principles, the Court found that the officer’s
conduct, while perhaps reckless or deliberately indifferent to the well-being of the
fleeing motorcyclists, did not rise to the conscience-shocking level because:
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        [The officer] was faced with a course of lawless behavior for which the
        police were not to blame. They had done nothing to cause [the driver’s]
        high-speed driving in the first place, nothing to excuse his flouting of the
        commonly understood law enforcement authority to control traffic, and
        nothing (beyond a refusal to call off the chase) to encourage him to race
        through traffic at breakneck speed forcing other drivers out of their travel
        lanes. [The driver’s] outrageous behavior was practically instantaneous,
        and so was [the officer’s] instinctive response. While prudence would
        have repressed the reaction, the officer’s instinct was to do his job as a
        law enforcement officer, not to induce [the driver’s] lawlessness, or to
        terrorize, cause harm, or kill. Prudence, that is, was subject to
        countervailing enforcement considerations, and while [the officer]
        exaggerated their demands, there is no reason to believe that they were
        tainted by an improper or malicious motive on his part.
Id. at 855.

        We recently applied Lewis in Meals v. City of Memphis, 493 F.3d 720 (6th Cir.
2007). Meals involved an officer who initiated and continued a high-speed chase of an
automobile that had exceeded the speed limit. The officer continued the chase without
turning on her car’s blue lights or siren and without obtaining authority from a
supervisor to continue the chase, both of which were violations of departmental policy
on automobile pursuits. It was also a violation of departmental policy to continue
chasing someone suspected only of a traffic violation or misdemeanor. Id. at 723-24.
The driver of the fleeing vehicle eventually collided with another car, killing two of its
occupants and rendering the driver a paraplegic.

        The estates brought substantive due process claims, and the district court denied
the officer’s motion for summary judgment because it found that a jury could believe the
officer’s conduct, which violated many departmental regulations, shocked the
conscience. Id. at 726. We reversed, finding that there was no evidence of an intent on
the officer’s part to harm the fleeing suspect or to worsen his legal plight. Id. at 730-31.
We specifically rejected the argument that the officer’s multiple violations of
departmental policy at the very least raised a question of fact from which one could infer
malice on the officer’s part. Id.
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         In this case, the estate’s argument is essentially that the officers should have
suspended the chase when the suspects extinguished the Taurus’s headlights. Their
failure to do so, the estate argues, violated departmental policies and gives rise to an
inference that the officers actually intended to harm the suspects, separate from the
legitimate object of arrest, in a manner that shocks the conscience. However, if the
officers’ actions in Lewis and Meals did not rise to the level of shocking the conscience,
then neither do the actions of the officers in this case.

         First, it was undisputed that the officers in Lewis and Meals violated
departmental policies regarding chases, whereas the alleged violations in this case are
not so clear. And, second, this case involves a chase of suspected armed robbers
whereas Lewis and Meals involved high-speed chases over mere traffic offenses. As the
Supreme Court has indicated, the chase-or-not-to-chase question involves balancing the
risk to human life against the need to enforce the law against offenders. Lewis, 523 U.S.
at 853. Chasing suspected armed robbers tilts the balance much further towards
continuing a dangerous chase than does chasing transgressors of the traffic laws,3 yet
both Lewis and Meals found that the decision to chase traffic offenders did not shock the
conscience. In the end, as in Lewis and Meals, the estate has not produced any evidence
that Officers Lentine or Byrnes were acting with any intent to harm the suspects instead
of trying to apprehend what they reasonably believed to be dangerous criminals. Thus,
as their actions do not shock the conscience, the estate has not established a prima facie
case of deprivation of Jones’s substantive due process rights.




         3
           In a case involving a claim brought by a suspect who had been run off the road by an officer in
order to end a chase, the Supreme Court recently stated “we are loath to lay down a rule requiring the
police to allow fleeing suspects to get away whenever they drive so recklessly that they put other people’s
lives in danger. . . . The Constitution assuredly does not impose this invitation to impunity-earned-by-
recklessness.” Scott v. Harris, 550 U.S. 372, 385-86 (2007) (emphasis in original). Although not on all
fours because Scott involved a claim brought under the Fourth Amendment instead of the Fourteenth
Amendment, the point still rings true.
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              B.     Did the Officers Violate a Clearly Established Right?

         In the alternative, even if the officers’ actions did rise to the level of violating
Jones’s constitutional rights, it was not clearly established at the time of the incident that
actions of that sort crossed the constitutional line. Neither side has cited any case, from
any circuit or district court, in which an officer’s actions in a police chase have
ultimately been found to shock the conscience, nor are we aware of any such case.4 As
a result, although Lewis established in 1998 that an officer’s conduct in a police chase
could theoretically shock the conscience, there have been no examples of what specific
kinds of conduct rise to that level. The “clearly established” inquiry “must be
undertaken in consideration of the specific context of the case, not as a broad general
proposition . . . . ” Katz, 533 U.S. at 201. Thus, at present, it would be exceedingly
difficult for an officer to be aware of what specific actions violate the clearly established
general right of suspects and third parties to be free from arbitrary deprivation of life and
liberty in police-pursuit scenarios. Certainly Officers Lentine and Byrnes had no
guidance from this Court or the Supreme Court on what would shock the conscience, just
what would not. The officers, therefore, would be entitled to qualified immunity even
had we found that their actions shocked the conscience.

                                                  V.

         For the reasons set forth above, we AFFIRM.




         4
          Several district courts have denied summary judgment in police-pursuit cases on the basis that
a jury could find that the officer’s conduct shocked the conscience, but all of those courts have been
reversed on appeal. E.g. Meals, 493 F.3d at 730-31.
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                                       CONCURRENCE
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         BOYCE F. MARTIN, JR., Circuit Judge, concurring. I concur in the Court’s
disposition of this case. Mr. Jones’s death, though truly terrible, was not the result of
a constitutional violation. I write separately, however, to discuss a troubling problem
highlighted by this case and to suggest an approach to apply in future cases that
addresses this problem.

         As the Court notes, neither party has cited a single example of a case, from any
circuit or district court, in which an officer’s actions in a police chase have ultimately
been found to shock the conscience, and I am aware of no such case. Thus, it appears
that the set of examples of constitutionally impermissible police-pursuit behavior is
currently an empty one. Although surprising, this was not especially troubling under the
mandatory analytical regime set forth in Saucier v. Katz, 533 U.S. 194 (2001).

         Under Katz, even if a given police-pursuit case did not amount to a constitutional
violation, the court would still have to go through the exercise of explaining why the
police officer’s actions did not shock the conscience.                        However—at least in
theory—sometime in the future a district court will find, and an appellate court will
agree, that a police-pursuit case transgressed the Fourteenth Amendment threshold.1
And if Katz still controlled, the court confronted with this future case would, as a matter
of law, have to confront the constitutional question head on, finally establishing a
positive data point announcing that this police action, whatever it is, crosses the line.

         But Katz is no longer the law of the land; Pearson v. Callahan, 129 S. Ct. 808
(2009), is. Under Pearson, courts are now generally free to address the two questions
set forth in Katz in whichever order they deem appropriate in a particular case. In


         1
          As the Court’s opinion notes, several district courts have believed that they have stumbled upon
the fact pattern that could shock a jury’s conscience and have denied qualified immunity at summary
judgment, only to be reversed by the court of appeals. See supra at 10 n.4. At some point, a district court
will come to the same conclusion as these previous district courts and, this time, the court of appeals will
agree.
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practice, this means that a court may avoid deciding whether a constitutional violation
occurred if the court is of the belief that, even assuming a violation, it was not clearly
established at the time of the incident that the officer’s actions crossed whatever
constitutional line is at play in a given case. Usually, traditional constitutional avoidance
policies would counsel in favor of doing just that. These avoidance policies are why the
Supreme Court’s decision in Pearson makes sense now. In short, Katz generally served
its purpose—in most section 1983 cases there are now sufficient data points to define the
scope of constitutionally impermissible behavior. Thus, there is less of a need to
continue developing the body of constitutional precedent, so the constitutional avoidance
policies can come back into play.

        However, police-pursuit cases do not fall within the group of section 1983 cases
for which Katz accomplished its goal of developing constitutional precedent because the
set of examples of impermissible police-pursuit behavior remains empty. I am therefore
concerned about applying Pearson in future police-pursuit cases. Except in the most
overwhelmingly egregious case, an officer that crosses the Fourteenth Amendment’s
threshold likely still would be entitled to qualified immunity because it was not clearly
established that his specific actions were of the kind that crossed the line. Under
Pearson, the court confronted with this officer’s actions could avoid the constitutional
question entirely and resolve the case on the clearly established prong. And so too could
all subsequent courts.

        This, of course, results in a self-perpetuating cycle in Fourteenth Amendment
police-pursuit cases: district courts will skip the constitutional inquiry in favor of
disposing of cases on the “clearly established” prong, so there will never be an actual
finding that an officer’s conduct shocks the conscience, so courts will continue to be able
to dispose of cases on the “clearly established” prong, and so on. We could see a string
of cases with the same refrain: “Even if the officer violated the Fourteenth Amendment
in continuing this pursuit, it was not clearly established at the time of the incident that
his actions violated plaintiff’s constitutional rights. We therefore pass on the question
whether a constitutional violation actually occurred, because we have discretion to do
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so under Pearson, and find that the defendant is entitled to qualified immunity.” The set
of conscience-shocking fact patterns could remain empty, and no body of case law will
develop to define the parameters of what police conduct in a pursuit case could shock
the conscience.

         This is a troubling potential because reflexive exercise of Pearson discretion in
police-pursuit cases could result in essentially writing that cause of action off the books.
Thankfully, I believe Pearson anticipates this very scenario and provides a safeguard
against the extinction of difficult, but nonetheless valid, constitutional tort claims.

         As I understand Pearson, the Supreme Court merely lifted the requirement that
lower courts implement the Katz analytical sequence in all qualified immunity cases.
However, Pearson “continue[d] to recognize that [the Katz protocol] is often beneficial.”
129 S. Ct. at 818. Furthermore, Justice Alito’s opinion explicitly addresses this very
situation, where the body of constitutional law is thin or non-existent: “In addition, the
Saucier Court was certainly correct in noting that the two-step procedure promotes the
development of constitutional precedent and is especially valuable with respect to
questions that do not frequently arise in cases in which a qualified immunity defense is
unavailable.” Id. (emphasis added).

         I therefore read Pearson to encourage and support continued development of the
constitutional law using a more targeted approach in small subsets of qualified immunity
cases, such as police-pursuit cases, where the body of law still needs fattening.2 I
believe this to be the proper approach and applaud the Court’s decision to address the
constitutional question in this case even though not required under Pearson. I further
encourage the district courts and future panels of this Court to follow suit in these kinds
of cases by continuing to employ Katz’s analytical sequence.




         2
           Although I have not surveyed the entire body of section 1983 case law to find other
constitutional claims for which there are very few or no examples of impermissible state action, I am
confident that they exist. My concern about Pearson resulting in a failure to adequately develop the
constitutional precedent applies to those other constitutional claims just as strongly as it applies to police-
pursuit cases, and so too does my suggestion of applying Katz in future cases that fall within these subsets.
