
365 B.R. 540 (2007)
In re JAMUNA REAL ESTATE, LLC, Bagga Enterprises, Inc., United Management Services, Inc., Debtors.
Marvin Krasny, Chapter 7 Trustee of Jatnuna Real Estate LLC; Marvin Krasny, Chapter 7 Trustee of United Management Services, Inc.; Gary Seitz, Chapter 7 Trustee of Bagga Enterprises, Inc.; and FL Receivables Trust 2002-A, Plaintiffs,
v.
Pratpal Bagga; Khushvinder Bagga; Ravinder Chawla; Hardeep Chawla Welcome Group, Inc.; K & P Real Estate LLC; World Apparel Products, Inc. d/b/a SJM Trading Co., d/b/a Ten Tigers; American Merchandise Co., Inc., a/k/a American Merchandising Co., Inc.; 21st Century Restaurant Solutions, Inc.; Brand Trade, Inc.; HB Properties, Inc.; HB Properties LLP; Sant Properties; John and Jane Does and ABC Companies, Debtors.
Bankruptcy Nos. 04-37130, 04-37132, 04-37136. Adversary Nos. 06-0128 to 06-0130.
United States Bankruptcy Court, E.D. Pennsylvania.
April 25, 2007.
*541 *542 *543 *544 George Conway, Esquire, Office of the U.S. Trustee, Philadelphia PA, for Interested Parties.
Richard M. Simins, Esquire, Buchanan Ingersoll, P.C., Philadelphia, PA, Andrew Teitelman, Esquire, Huntingdon Valley, PA, for Defendants.
Lawrence J. Tabas, Esquire, Obermayer Rebmann Maxwell & Hippel LLP, Philadelphia, PA, Patrick E. Fitzmaurice, Esquire, Christopher F. Graham, Esquire, Thatcher Proffitt & Wood LLP, White Plains, NY, for Plaintiff.

Opinion
STEPHEN RASLAVICH, Bankruptcy Judge.
Introduction.
In three related bankruptcies, two trustees and a secured lender have filed an identical fifteen count complaint against four individuals and various entities controlled by them. The Complaint alleges federal racketeering and state common law claims. All Defendants move for dismissal of all counts with the exception of Count V. The motion is opposed by the Plaintiffs. A hearing on the motion was held on July 25, 2006. For the reasons set forth below, the Motion will be granted in part and denied in part.
Procedural Developments Since the Filing of this Motion
Following the hearing, the Defendants filed a motion in the District Court to withdraw the reference of this case from the Bankruptcy Court. That request was opposed. Before ruling on that motion, the District Court remanded the matter to this Court to determine which claims in the Complaint raise core versus non-core claims. See Order dated October 6, 2006, 06 cv 0050. This Court made that determination on December 20, 2006. On January 22, 2007, the District Court denied the Defendants' motion to withdraw reference. That placed the Defendants' Motion to Dismiss squarely before this Court.
Summary of Holding
Count I  RICO (Plaintiffs against Pratpal and Khushvinder Bagga and R. Chawla)
 Basis for Contention: Defendants maintain that this count fails to state a claim under RICO against either Pratpal Bagga, Khushvinder Bagga or Ravinder Chawla
 Holding: The Court holds that this Count does state a RICO claim against all three Defendants
Count II  Conspiracy to Violate RICO (Plaintiffs against all Defendants)
 Basis for Contention: The Defendants argue that the Complaint is deficient as it fails to allege agreement among the alleged conspirators, that it fails to allege the requisite mental state, and that the Plaintiffs lack standing to raise this, as well, as the first count.
 Holding: Count II states a claim of conspiracy to violate RICO as to all Defendants
Count III  Alter Ego (Plaintiffs against the Baggas, Bagga Enterprises, Inc., Jamuna Real Estate LLC and United Management Services, Inc.)
 Basis for Contention: Defendants argue that no alter ego claim is made out as to Mrs. Bagga.
 Holding: The Court finds that Count III states an alter ego claim as to both *545 Pratpal Bagga and his wife Khushvinder Bagga.
Count IV  Fraudulent Transfer (Plaintiffs vs. Pratpal and Khushvinder Bagga)
 Basis for Contention: Defendants maintain that this Court lacks jurisdiction to hear this claim; that the count fails to state a claim; and that the claim is untimely
 Holding: Count IV will be dismissed without prejudice
Count V  Conversion (Plaintiffs against Pratpal Bagga)
This count is not challenged by the Defendants.
Counts VI through VIII  Turnover (Plaintiff Trustees v. Defendants)
 Basis for Contention: Defendants maintain that these three counts do not plead turnover claims.
 Holding: The Court concurs with the Defendants. Counts VI through VIII will be dismissed with prejudice for failure to state claims for turnover
Count IX  Fraud (Plaintiff FL Receivables vs. Individual Defendants)
 Basis for Contention: Defendants maintain that this Count is not made out as to Khushvinder Bagga, Ravinder Chawla or Hardeep Chawla.
 Holding: Count IX will be dismissed as to Khushvinder Bagga, Ravinder Chawla and Hardeep Chawla without prejudice
Count X  Alter Ego (Plaintiffs against all Defendants)
 Basis for Contention: The Defendants maintain that this count fails to state an alter ego claim against Khushvinder Bagga, Ravinder Chawla or Hardeep Chawla.
 Holding: The Court finds that Count X fails to state an alter ego claim against either Ravinder or Hardeep Chawla.
Count XI  Breach of Fiduciary Duty/ Self Dealing (Plaintiffs against all Individual Defendants)
Count XII  Breach of Fiduciary Duty/Preservation of Entity Property (Plaintiffs against the Bagga Defendants)
Count XIII  Breach of Fiduciary Duty/Deepening of Insolvency (Plaintiffs against all Defendants)
 Basis for Contention: As to all three counts, Defendants argue that each fails to state a claim against Khushvinder Bagga, Ravinder Chawla or Hardeep Chawla.
 Holding: Counts XI through XIII fail to state a claim against either Ravinder or Hardeep Chawla the three counts will be dismissed without prejudice as to them.
Count XIV  Aiding and Abetting a Breach of Fiduciary Duty (Plaintiffs against the Defendants)
 Basis for Contention: The Defendants argue that this count fails to state a cause of action as a legal matter and, alternatively, that it fails to state a claim as to either Khushvinder Bagga or Hardeep Chawla.
 Holding: The Court holds that this count states a claim against both Khushvinder Bagga and Hardeep Chawla for aiding and abetting a breach of fiduciary duty.
Count XV  Declaratory Relief (Plaintiffs against the Defendants)
 Plaintiffs have admitted that this count is identical to Count X. Therefore, this Court's ruling as to that earlier count disposes of this one.
*546 The Arguments For Dismissal
The Motion to Dismiss is premised mostly on Rule 12(b)(6)[1]; i.e., that the complaint fails to state a claim upon which relief may be granted. It is also party-specific as to certain defendants and certain claims. The statute of limitations is also raised as to certain counts.
Standard for Dismissal
In judging the legal sufficiency of a complaint, the claim may not be dismissed unless it appears beyond doubt that the plaintiff can prove no set of facts which would entitle him to relief. Conley v. Gibson, 355 U.S. 41, 45-46, 78 S.Ct. 99, 101-02, 2 L.Ed.2d 80 (1957). All well-pleaded factual allegations in the claim must be taken as true. Cruz v. Beto, 405 U.S. 319, 322, 92 S.Ct. 1079, 1081, 31 L.Ed.2d 263 (1972); Rocks v. Philadelphia, 868 F.2d 644, 645 (3d Cir.1989). The court must draw all reasonable inferences from the allegations and view them in the light most favorable to the non-moving party. Rocks, 868 F.2d at 645. Although the statute of limitations is raised usually as an affirmative defense, it may be brought as grounds for dismissal. See. Robinson v. Johnson, 313 F.3d 128, 135 n. 13 (3d Cir.2002) (recognizing that the only time that the statute of limitations may serve as grounds for dismissal in a Rule 12(b)(6) motion is when it is clear from the face of the complaint the time has in fact run); Wright & Miller, Federal Practice and Procedure: Civil 3d § 1357 at 686 (2007) ("A complaint showing that the governing statute of limitations has run on the plaintiffs claim for relief is the most common situation in which the affirmative defense appears on the face of the pleading and provides a basis for a motion to dismiss under Rule 12(b)(6).")
Count I  RICO
The first count alleges that Pratpal Bagga, Khushvinder Bagga, and Ravinder Chawla violated § 1962 of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act of 1984 (RICO).[2] That section provides, in pertinent part, that:
It shall be unlawful for any person employed by or associated with any enterprise engaged in, or the activities of which affect interstate or foreign commerce to conduct or participate, directly or indirectly, in the conduct of such enterprise's affairs through a pattern of racketeering activity or collection of unlawful debt.
18 U.S.C. § 1962(c). In order to plead a violation of RICO, plaintiffs must allege (1) conduct (2) of an enterprise (3) through a pattern (4) of racketeering activity. Lum v. Bank America, 361 F.3d 217, 223 (3d Cir.2004) citing Sedima, S.P.R.L. v. Imrex Co., Inc., 473 U.S. 479, 496, 105 S.Ct. 3275, 87 L.Ed.2d 346 (1985). Where, as here, Plaintiffs rely on mail and wire fraud as a basis for a RICO violation, the allegations of fraud must comply with Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 9(b), which requires that allegations of fraud be pleaded with specificity. See Saporito v. Combustion Engineering, 843 F.2d 666, 673 (3d Cir.1988) reed on other grounds 489 U.S. 1049, 109 S.Ct. 1306, 103 L.Ed.2d 576 (1989). In order to satisfy Rule 9(b), plaintiffs must plead with particularity "the `circumstances' of the alleged fraud in order to place the defendants on notice of the precise misconduct with which they are charged, and to safeguard defendants against spurious charges of immoral and *547 fraudulent behavior." Seville Indus. Mach. Corp. v. Southmost Mach. Corp., 742 F.2d 786, 791 (3d Cir.1984). Plaintiffs may satisfy this requirement by pleading the "date, place or time" of the fraud, or through "alternative means of injecting precision and some measure of substantiation into their allegations of fraud." Id. (holding that a plaintiff satisfied Rule 9(b) by pleading which machines were the subject of alleged fraudulent transactions and the nature and subject of the alleged misrepresentations). Plaintiffs also must allege who made a misrepresentation to whom and the general content of the misrepresentation. See Saporito, 843 F.2d at 675; Rolo v. City Investing Co. Liquidating Trust, 155 F.3d 644, 658-59 (3d Cir. 1998) abrogated on other grounds as recognized in Forbes v. Eagleson, 228 F.3d 471 (3d Cir.2000); Klein v. General Nutrition Co., Inc., 186 F.3d 338, 345 (3d Cir.1999).
Conduct
Liability under subsection (c) is predicated on a defendant having "conduct[ed] or participate[d], directly or indirectly, in the conduct of [the enterprise's], affairs." 18 U.S.C. § 1962(c)(emphasis added). In Reves v. Ernst & Young, the Supreme Court held that "`to conduct or participate, directly or indirectly, in the conduct of such enterprise's affairs,' one must participate in the operation or management of the enterprise itself." 507 U.S. 170, 185, 113 S.Ct. 1163, 1173, 122 L.Ed.2d 525 (1993) (citation omitted).[3] The High Court understood the word "conduct" to indicate some degree of direction over the affairs of the enterprise. Id. at 178, 113 S.Ct. at 1169. The Court concluded also that the term "participate" meant "to take part in." Id. at 179, 113 S.Ct. at 1170; see also See University of Maryland v. Peat, Marwick, Main & Co., 996 F.2d 1534, 1539 (3d Cir. 1993) (adopting "operation or management" test enunciated in Reyes); see also United Nat. Ins. Co. v. Equipment Ins. Managers, 1995 WL 631709 *4 (E.D.Pa.). What conduct or participation is alleged here?
In its recitation of the alleged facts,[4] the Complaint begins generally by alleging that "the Baggas and the Chawlas jointly control and direct the affairs of the Bagga/Chawla, Enterprise." Complaint, ¶ 33. They are further alleged to have "made [at least 20] joint decisions concerning the affairs of the [enterprise.]" Id. ¶ 34(a)-(t). Within the RICO counts, "Pratpal Bagga, Khushvinder Bagga and Ravinder Chawla are alleged to have `directly or indirectly conducted or participated in conducting the affairs' of the enterprise." Id. ¶ 166. The three individuals are alleged to have "knowingly caused" companies they control to defraud a lender. Id. ¶ 169. Pratpal Bagga caused two entities of the enterprise to hide collateral. Id. ¶ 170. Both the Baggas and the Chawlas are alleged to have caused two of its businesses to sell counterfeit clothing and to have laundered the proceeds of such actions. Id. ¶ 171, 172. Pratpal is also alleged to have committed bankruptcy fraud in the case of one of the entities, the Welcome Group, to benefit the enterprise. Id. ¶ 174.
The Court finds that each of the named individual defendants to this count served in some managerial or operational capacity as to the enterprise. Pratpal *548 Bagga is cited the most often as having acted to further the enterprise. He was assisted by his wife Khushvinder on at least two occasions. Ravinder Chawla is not specifically identified in the RICO count; however, there are numerous allegations implicating the Chawlas in the sale of counterfeit goods, money laundering, and bankruptcy fraud. Accordingly, the element of "conduct or participation in the conduct" of the enterprise is satisfied as to each of the named individual defendants here.
Enterprise
The statute specifically defines an enterprise as "any individual, partnership, corporation, association, or other legal entity, and any union or group of individuals associated in fact although not a legal entity." 18 U.S.C. § 1961(4). To plead a RICO enterprise, "it is enough that a complaint put the defendant on notice of the claims against him." It is the function of discovery to fill in the details, and of trial to establish fully each element of the cause of action. Seville, supra, 742 F.2d at 790. Accordingly, the complaint need only identify the entities which Plaintiffs believe constitute the enterprise. See PTI Services, Inc. v. Quotron Systems, Inc., 1995 WL 241411 *12 (E.D.Pa.) citing Seville, supra, 742 F.2d at 790. The rules of pleadings require nothing more at this early juncture than that bare allegation. See State Farm Mutual Automobile Ins. Co., v. Red Lion Medical Center, Inc., 2003 WL 21973349 *3 (E.D.Pa.) citing Seville, id. Although one court has added that the Plaintiff must allege that the enterprise is separate from the pattern of racketeering activity, see Dianese v. Com. of Pennsylvania, 2002 WL 1340316 *11 (E.D.Pa.), the majority of the courts in this District hold that all that needs to be pleaded at this stage of the proceedings is the existence of the enterprise. See, e.g., Lickman v. Rivkin, 2006 WL 1744753 *6 (E.D.Pa.) citing Seville, 742 F.2d at 790.
Here, Plaintiffs allege the existence of the "Bagga/Chawla Enterprise" in detail. The enterprise is alleged to be an association in fact of individuals and affiliated entities under the joint direction, control and leadership of the Baggas and Chawlas. Complaint, ¶ 29. Its objective, as alleged, is to obtain non-recourse loans for the benefit of the corporations controlled by these individuals, to convert the proceeds of such loans to the use of non-borrowers by various fraudulent means, to default on such loans, and to frustrate efforts to collect those obligations. Id. ¶ 4. The enterprise's alleged modus operandi is set out in one extended paragraph of the Complaint.[5]Id. ¶ 5. It involves "common businesses" with "interlocking relationships" which "engage in commingling of funds." Id. "Over a period of years," these businesses are alleged to have "worked together" to perpetrate the alleged fraud. Id. The enterprise is alleged to have created a "complex system of commingled transactions" with an intentionally opaque accounting system. Id. Money is borrowed by one or more of the businesses; that business then cooperates with other businesses in the enterprise to divert the loan proceeds funds from the borrower to other businesses or individuals controlling them; the obligated business is then stripped of assets or fraudulently encumbered so that the lender cannot collect from the borrower. Id.
For purposes of surviving a motion to dismiss, the Complaint pleads the existence of an enterprise sufficiently. There is no mystery as to who the members of the enterprise are, what the enterprise is, *549 what it does, and how it goes about doing it. Moreover, it clearly demarcates, on the one hand, the Baggas, Mr. Chawla, and the businesses each controls, from the enterprise. The Court finds, then, that the Complaint sufficiently identifies the enterprise.
The Pattern and Racketeering Activity Elements of the RICO Claim
The order of the remaining two RICO elements enumerated by the Third Circuit in Lum, supra  third, a "pattern" and fourth, a "racketeering activity"  would indicate that the Court first analyze whether a pattern is pleaded; however, as a practical matter; that order must be reversed. As will be seen, infra, the Court cannot determine if a pattern between or among acts has been pleaded until it knows what those predicates are. Indeed, this was the method employed by both the Supreme Court and the Third Circuit. See, e.g., H.J., Inc. v. Northwestern Bell Tel. Co., 492 U.S. 229, 251, 109 S.Ct. 2893, 2906, 106 L.Ed.2d 195 (1989) (finding first that petitioner alleged multiple predicate acts of bribery before analyzing whether such acts related to a common purpose); see also Kehr Packages, Inc. v. Fidelcor, Inc., 926 F.2d 1406, 1411-12 (3d Cir.1991) (finding that complaint alleged predicate act of mail fraud before determining if pattern pleaded). Does the Complaint plead the requisite "racketeering activity"?
To answer that question, the Court refers first to the definition of the term provided in the statute. In pertinent part, a "racketeering activity" is
(B) any act which is indictable under any of the following provisions of title 18 United States Code: . . . section 1341 (relating to mail fraud), section 1343 (relating to wire fraud) . . . section 1956 (relating to the laundering of monetary instruments) . . . section 2314 and 2315 (relating to interstate transportation of stolen property) . . . section 2320 (relating to trafficking in goods and services bearing counterfeit marks) . . . (D) any offense involving fraud connected with a case under title 11 . . .
18 U.S.C. § 1961(1). The complaint alleges two or more related instances of mail fraud, wire fraud, trafficking in counterfeit goods, money laundering, interstate transportation of converted goods, tax fraud and bankruptcy fraud. Complaint, ¶ 168. As to mail and wire fraud per se, the Complaint alleges that the Defendants used the mails and wires to make fraudulent misrepresentations to the lender to obtain loans (¶¶ 40-41), to transmit loan proceeds to other members of the Enterprise in order to conceal them from the lender (¶¶ 100, 101), to falsely explain to the lender why the loan could not be repaid, and to convey a collusive offer to satisfy the loan at a 50% discount. Id. ¶¶ 83, 111-113, 169, 173. The Defendants were also alleged to have used the mails and wire to traffic in counterfeit apparel and to launder the proceeds of that business. Id. ¶ 171-172. They are accused of having moved the lender's collateral across state lines. Id. ¶ 170. Finally, the Defendants are alleged to have committed a number of frauds related to a bankruptcy: concealing property, making a false oath or account, misstating a debtor's financial condition and/or payments to insiders, and knowingly destroying or concealing records. Id. ¶¶ 174-75. Each of these acts constitutes a "racketeering activity" as expressly defined above.[6] The next question *550 for the Court to answer is whether these acts follow a "pattern"?
What Constitutes a Pattern for Purposes of RICO?
There is no specific definition of the term "pattern" in the statute. The closest it comes is in its definition of "pattern of racketeering activity." That is defined as
at least two acts of racketeering activity, one of which occurred after the effective date of this chapter and the last of which occurred within ten years (excluding any period of imprisonment) after the commission of a prior act of racketeering activity;
18 U.S.C. § 1961(5). This definition has been held to "state a minimum necessary condition for the existence" of a "pattern." H.J. Inc., supra 492 U.S. at 237, 109 S.Ct. at 2899 (1989) The Supreme Court emphasized that "allegations cannot constitute a RICO `pattern' unless they show that the racketeering predicates are related, and that they amount to or pose a threat of continued criminal activity." Id.; see also Kehr Packages, Inc. v. Fidelcor, Inc., 926 F.2d at 1412 (emphasis added) (citing H.J., Inc., supra to require RICO plaintiff to plead that predicates acts related and that they amount to or pose the threat of continuing criminal activity to sufficiently allege pattern requirement); see also Tabas v. Tabas, 47 F.3d 1280, 1303 (3d Cir. 1995) ("Thus, a plaintiff seeking to bring a RICO claim must allege, among other things, relatedness and continuity") Both tests depend heavily on the specific facts of each case. Kehr, supra, id.
Relatedness
The Supreme Court has adopted a broad multi-factor test for relatedness, which focuses on whether the alleged predicate acts "have the same or similar purposes, results, participants, victims, or methods of commission, or are interrelated by distinguishing characteristics and are not isolated events." H.J., Inc. 492 U.S. at 240, 109 S.Ct. at 2901 (quoting Dangerous Special Offender Sentencing Act, 18 U.S.C. § 3575(e) (1982), repealed by Sentencing Reform Act of 1984, Pub.L. No. 98-473, tit. II, § 212(a)(2), 98 Stat.1987). Does the Complaint allege a nexus among these predicate acts?
The Court finds that it does. The Complaint alleges that the Defendants used mail and wire fraud to transmit false information to obtain the commercial loans. Complaint ¶ 41. This involved mailing false price lists for equipment that the Defendants were supposed to buy with the loan proceeds. Id. ¶ 47. Other false financial information was furnished as well. Id. ¶ 49. After receiving the loan proceeds, the Complaint goes on to explain, Mr. Bagga claims to have invested those proceeds in a business controlled by his cousin, Mr. Chawla. Id. ¶ 71. That business is alleged to have trafficked in counterfeit apparel in violation of federal law. Id. VI 66, 67. From there, the loan proceeds would be re-characterized and funneled back to the Baggas. In other words, those funds were laundered also in violation of federal law. Id. ¶ 84-87. By this time, the borrowers had defaulted and when pressed for payment, they resorted to mail and wire fraud to convey an offer of compromise to the lenders that was collusive. Id. ¶ 111-113. All the while, the Complaint continues, the Defendants were transporting the collateral that secured the loan out of state in violation of federal law. Id. ¶ 126-131. And when the *551 lender sought to enforce its guarantees against Welcome Group, the Defendants resorted to bankruptcy fraud. They encumbered the Welcome Group with fraudulent liens which ostensibly had priority over the lenders claim. They are also alleged to have failed intentionally false disclosures in that proceeding. Id. ¶¶ 135-142. All of the racketeering activities alleged in the complaint follow a pattern to defraud this lender.
Continuity
To establish a RICO pattern, it must, also be shown that the predicates themselves amount to, or that they otherwise constitute a threat" of, continuing racketeering activity. H.J. Inc., supra, 492 U.S. at 240, 109 S.Ct. at 2901. The Third Circuit has interpreted the Supreme Court's holding as follows:
Of course, not every single scheme comprising two or more predicate acts will constitute a pattern. Continuity refers "either to a closed period of repeated conduct, or to past conduct that by its nature projects into the future with a threat of repetition." Id, at 241, 109 S.Ct. at 2902. A short-term scheme threatening no future criminal activity will not suffice. Although Congress intended a "natural and common-sense approach to RICO's pattern element" and continuity "depends on the specific facts of each case," id. at 237, 242, 109 S.Ct. at 2899, 2902, the Court delineated some parameters of the analysis. The Court stressed that continuity is "centrally a temporal concept." Id. at 242, 109 S.Ct. at 2899, 2902, Thus, the length of time over which the criminal activity occurs or threatens to occur is an important factor. As the Court noted, "[p]redicate acts extending over a few weeks or months and threatening no future criminal conduct do not satisfy this requirement: Congress was concerned in RICO with long-term criminal conduct." Id. One method of demonstrating continuity is to show that "the predicate acts or offenses are part of an ongoing entity's regular way of doing business." Id. This showing can be made with respect to otherwise legitimate entities, or when "the predicate acts can be attributed to a defendant operating as part of a long-term association that exists for criminal purposes." Id.

This court has also noted other factors that are relevant to the "pattern" inquiry. In Barticheck v. Fidelity Union Bank/First Nat'l State, 832 F.2d 36, 39 (3d Cir.1987), we focused on "the number of unlawful acts, the length of time over which the acts were committed, the similarity of the acts, the number of victims, the number of perpetrators, and the character of the unlawful activity." This approach is entirely consistent with H.J. Inc. See Marshall-Silver Constr. Co. v. Mendel, 894 F.2d 593, 596 (3d Cir. 1990). After H.J. Inc., however, "we must focus on these factors as they bear upon the separate questions of continuity and relatedness." Banks, 918 F.2d at 423.
Kehr Packages, 926 F.2d at 1412-13. What does the Complaint allege as to continuity?
The Complaint alleges both open-ended and closed-ended continuity. Plaintiffs see a threat of future racketeering activity in Defendants' failure to have abated their fraud. Complaint ¶ 179. They continue, it is further alleged, to divert and conceal assets, conceal collateral in which the lender has a security interest, and to destroy information relating to the Bagga-controlled businesses. Id. Defendants disagree arguing that what is pleaded here is *552 a single, discrete scheme to obtain a loan which it would never repay. There is no allegation of further fraud. Plaintiffs response is that the scheme must ever beget more instances of fraud to survive. As Plaintiffs put it, from the initial misrepresentation about the loans to the hiding of assets, "each of these predicate acts signals that another is to come." Plaintiffs' Brief, 26.
The Court does not find that the Complaint supports that conclusion. Taking all the factual allegations as true, it does not necessarily follow that there is, more fraud to come. In fact, the last alleged instance of racketeering is what happened in the Welcome Group bankruptcy. That case was filed in April 2004. Since then, the parties have been in litigation and no further racketeering is alleged. The Court, then, does not read the Complaint to set forth the possibility of continued  i.e., "open-ended"  criminal activity.
That does not mean, however, that what is alleged does not otherwise constitute continuity. While there is no indication of ongoing fraud, what is alleged to have occurred transpired over a considerable time period. This matters because the Supreme Court has interpreted continuity in this context as fundamentally a temporal concept. H.J., Inc., 492 U.S. at 242, 109 S.Ct. at 2902. Continuity does not necessarily connote perpetuity; the two dimensions are not to be confused. This, then, is what the Supreme Court meant by "closed-end" continuity. Id.; see also Hindes v. Castle, 937 F.2d 868, 873 (3d Cir.1991) ("[D]uration is the sine qua non of continuity.") What is alleged is not a case of an episodic fraud or racketeering activity. Rather, the Complaint asserts a fraud which begot other frauds and racketeering activities in various, albeit related, contexts spanning over three years. The initial loan was procured by fraudulent representations. When that loan defaulted, the borrowers gave false reasons why they could not pay. This was done to buy time to render themselves judgment proof and to hide the collateral. Even the guarantor who would file bankruptcy was saddled with bogus liens and had paid insiders without disclosing that fact in the bankruptcy proceeding. Meanwhile, the individual defendants enriched themselves with the money supposedly borrowed on behalf of their businesses. So while this conduct may have ceased, it lasted sufficiently long to constitute a "closed-end" pattern of continuous racketeering.
In sum, the Plaintiffs plead a RICO count sufficiently within the strictures of Rule 9's specificity requirement. The Complaint described the date and place of the initial alleged frauds in obtaining the loans.[7]See Complaint ¶ 41. It also cites the month and year in which the Defendants allegedly misrepresented the reason the loan had defaulted, when they colluded to try to settle the loan at a tremendous discount, when the lender learned that its collateral had been moved. Id. ¶ 71, 112-113, 126.[8] Finally, the timing of the filing of misleading bankruptcy disclosures and claims is apparent enough from a review of the applicable dockets. Id. ¶ 137-140. All of this is sufficiently set forth within the framework of RICO.
Count II  Conspiracy to Violate RICO
The second count alleges that the Defendants engaged in a conspiracy to violate the RICO statute. Defendants offer three *553 reasons as to why this count is insufficient: first, it fails to allege either an "enterprise" or "pattern of racketeering activity"; second, it fails to allege the conspiracy itself; and third, it does not set forth the requisite mental state. See Defendants' Brief, 25-26; Defendants' Reply Brief, 11-12. The first of these contentions is quickly dispatched: this Court found that the Complaint pleaded both the existence of an "enterprise" and a "racketeering activity." It is the second and third arguments which require more analysis.
Pleading a RICO Conspiracy
Section 1962(d) of RICO makes it unlawful to conspire to violate [section 1962(a), (b), or (c)]. Liability under section 1962(d) liability is governed by the general principles of conspiracy law. See Smith v. Berg, 247 F.3d 532, 537 (3d Cir.2001) This informs, of course, any discussion of what must pleaded to allege a RICO conspiracy claim. In that regard, the Third Circuit has explained that:
[I]n order to state a claim under RICO subsection [1692](d), a plaintiff must allege (1) agreement to commit the predicate acts of fraud, and (2) knowledge that those acts were part of a pattern of racketeering activity conducted in such a way as to violate section 1962(a), (b), or (c). Odesser v. Continental. Bank, 676 F.Supp. 1305, 1312 (E.D.Pa.1987). "[A]llegations of conspiracy are not measured under the . . . [Fed.R.Civ.P.] 9(b) standard, which requires greater particularity of allegation of fraud, but are measured under the more liberal . . . [Fed. R.Civ.P. 8(a)] pleading standard." 676 F.Supp. at 1313. A conspiracy claim must also contain supportive factual allegations. Black & Yates, Inc. v. Mahogany Ass'n, Inc., 129 F.2d 227, 231-32 (3d Cir.), cert. denied, 317 U.S. 672, 63 S.Ct. 76, 87 L.Ed. 539 (1942). The allegations must be sufficient to "describe the general composition of the conspiracy; some or all of its broad objectives, and the defendant's general rule in that conspiracy."
Rose v. Bartle, 871 F.2d 331, 366 (3d Cir. 1989). have the Plaintiff's alleged a conspiracy?
Defendants argue that the conspiracy count consists of nothing more than conclusory allegations. Defendants' Brief, 27. No facts are alleged which indicate a conspiracy. Id. There is no explanation of "how or when Defendants conspired among themselves or with the other Defendants." Id. That argument, however, is premised upon a narrow reading of the conspiracy count. While the count consists of six paragraphs five of which, standing alone, plead in conclusory terms, it begins by incorporating all other pertinent factual allegations in the complaint. See Complaint ¶ 181. Such practice is not only permitted, but is encouraged. See F.R.C.P. 10(c)(made applicable by B.R. 7010); Wright & Miller, Federal Practice & Procedure: Civil 3d § 1326 (2007) (noting that practice of incorporation encourages pleadings that are short, concise and free of unwarranted repetition and promotes convenience). It is appropriate, then, for the Plaintiff to reference allegations beyond those expressly pleaded in Count II in asserting the conspiracy claim. Accordingly, the Court will judge the sufficiency of this count by all of the pertinent allegations in the Complaint.
The Existence of an Agreement
The Court begins its analysis with a determination of whether it is alleged that an agreement existed between and among the Defendants to commit the predicate acts. Within Count II it is alleged that Mr. and Mrs. Bagga and Ravinder Chawla[9]*554 agreed to conduct the affairs of the Bagga Chawla Enterprise through a pattern of racketeering activity. Complaint the ¶ 182. It is next alleged that "each of the to corporate Defendants also agreed with one or more of the Baggas and Chawlas to violate section 1962(c) . . ." Id. ¶ 183. Other than those general allegations, the Complaint adds that all of the Defendants were "involved in common businesses," "worked together to defraud creditors," and "cooperated in a scheme to divert" assets away of from creditors. Id. 5 (emphasis added). The Baggas and Chawlas made joint decisions regarding at least 18 instances of racketeering conduct. Id. ¶ 34(a)-(s) (emphasis added). Each corporate or nonindividual Defendant is alleged to have agreed with one or more of the Baggas or Chawlas to participate in and to facilitate the commission of those acts. Id. ¶ 31 (emphasis added). Does all of this state a RICO conspiracy against all of the Defendants?
While the Complaint does not allege that on a certain date, one or more of the Defendants met at a certain place and agreed on certain specific things, it contains other allegations which allow the inference of a conspiracy. Some of these examples are more apparent than others: Mr. Bagga is alleged to have attempted to collude with Messrs. Chawla and their company Sant Properties to defraud the lender by arranging a sham sale. Id. ¶ 112, 113. Collusion, by its nature, requires a joint design. More in the way of context is required when considering whether World Apparel is alleged to have conspired. That entity, another of the Chawlas' businesses, is charged with having furnished false equipment price lists to the lender who would use that information to decide to loan money to the Bagga Companies. Id. ¶ 47. Once those misrepresentation were made, Captee attempted to undertake due diligence but the financial information it received was similarly deceptive; it grossly understated the Borrowers' liabilities. Id. ¶ 49. After Captee made the loan, Mr. Bagga deposited some of the proceeds with Brand Trade (another entity he owns.[10]). Id. ¶ 46 The same can be said of the disclosures (or lack thereof) made by those in control of the Welcome Group when it filed bankruptcy. It is alleged that insider payments to Defendant K & P (controlled by Mrs. Bagga) and 21st Century (controlled by Mr. Bagga) were not disclosed. Id. ¶¶ 135-142. Such omissions do not occur by accident. It is also alleged that Sant Properties filed a fraudulent claim in the Welcome bankruptcy. Id. ¶ 140. All of this indicates concerted effort by these Defendants[11] named above to defraud the lender and thwart any hope of collection.
The Required Mental State
While a RICO violator must have agreed with his coconspirator, he must also have known at the time of the conspiracy that what they had agreed to do would further their enterprise. See Rose, supra, 871 F.2d at 367 (nothing that conspirator must have knowingly furthered the enterprise's affairs). This second element  mens rea  is what the Defendants maintain is lacking. See Reply Brief, 25. Does the Complaint allege that the Defendants[12] knew that they would further the *555 enterprise when they agreed on their conduct?
Again, the specific allegations within the count are conclusory: the "defendants knowingly took steps in furtherance of the conspiracy" and "knowingly undertook the commission of acts that did or would . . . constitute a pattern of racketeering activity." Complaint, ¶¶ 184,185. It is the incorporated allegations which precede this count which shed light on what the Defendants knew. It is alleged that to obtain the purchase money loans, Bagga Enterprises obtained from one of Chawla's businesses an invoice for the equipment which he would buy with the loan proceeds. Id. ¶ 41. The Complaint explains that the prices on that invoice were inflated and that the Baggas and Chawlas knew that the lender would make the loan based on those false representations. Id. ¶¶ 41, 47. Similarly, it is alleged that the Defendants knew that the letter explanation which Ravinder Chawla gave Mr. Bagga to explain to the lender why the loan could not be repaid was "knowingly false:" the accounting records reflect that the money was not lost, but diverted. Id. ¶¶ 77, 78, 80, 82, 86. Finally, while there is no express allegation that the collusive sale proposal of certain of the Bagga restaurants in satisfaction of the lender's claim was equally done with the intent of furthering the enterprise, it may be fairly inferred, from what is there. Plaintiff's allege not only that' the proposed buyer offered but one half of the restaurant's appraised value but that it was not disclosed to the lender that the buyer would be a corporation in which the Chawlas held an interest. Id. ¶¶ 112, 113. As alleged, then, this was no arms length transaction. More to the point, such a misrepresentation is not made without a purpose. In other words, one may infer from these allegations that the Defendants "knew" that they would be furthering their enterprise if they could satisfy the lender's claim under the proposed terms. Each of these examples from the Complaint alleges the requisite mental state for a RICO conspiracy.
In sum, the Court finds the conspiracy count to be sufficiently pleaded. It sets forth both agreement and intention to further the enterprise. More generally, it describes the composition of the conspiracy (the Baggas, the Chawlas and the businesses they control), explains its objective (to obtain non-recourse commercial loans which they would never repay), and relates the respective roles of the Defendants (Mr. Bagga as the primary actor; Messrs. Chawla as his aiders and abettors). Contrary to what Defendants maintain, a RICO conspiracy is properly alleged.
Standing and the RICO Claims
Defendants also argue that the RICO counts are not ripe. They maintain that the Defendants have not alleged the requisite injury. Defendants' Brief, 28. In other words, they allege that the Plaintiffs lack standing. In general, "[s]tanding consists of both a `case or controversy' requirement stemming from Article III, Section 2 of the Constitution, and a subconstitutional `prudential' element." See The Pitt News v. Fisher, 215 F.3d 354, 359 (3d Cir.2000). RICO provides that "[a]ny person injured in his business or property by reason of a violation of section 1962 of this chapter may sue therefor in any appropriate *556 United States district court . . ." 18 U.S.C. §, 1964(c). The Complaint alleges injury in the form of discrete monetary loss: it has sustained injury to its business and property, as a result of the various racketeering activities committed by the Defendants in connection with the loans. Complaint, ¶ 180. As of January 2006, it is alleged, FL is owed upwards of $5 million as a result of Defendants' conduct. Is that sufficient to meet the requirement under RICO that the plaintiff sustain an injury?
The Defendants explain that this very issue was disposed of in the District Court's Opinion of March 8, 2005. See FL Receivables Trust v. Bagga, et al., 2005 WL 563535 (E.D.Pa.). There, the District Court was confronted with a similar challenge to RICO and conspiracy to commit RICO counts. The Defendants had moved to dismiss those two counts for lack of standing. Id. *3 They explained that the Plaintiff's had a pending collection action against these same defendant which would determine the amount of any injury it had suffered. Id Until that other action was resolved, the Plaintiffs injury would remain "speculative and contingent on future events." Id
The District Court agreed. It observed that while their existed no binding authority on point, other circuits have held that a creditor's RICO claim is not ripe until it concludes any contract-based collection action. Id. *4 Within this circuit, the District Court noted, the Third Circuit has "left no doubt that an injury that is speculative or contingent on future events does not confer RICO standing." Id. citing Maio v. Aetna, Inc., 221 F.3d 472, 495 (3d Cir.2000)
In their Brief, the Plaintiffs mention the crucial fact neglected, by the Defendants: the subsequent bankruptcy filings: that the Welcome Group had filed bankruptcy in 2003 under Chapter 7 with no assets for creditors. Plaintiffs' Brief, 34. In December 2004, Bagga Enterprises, Jamuna Real Estate, and United Management filed under Chapter 7. Those cases are, of course, pending before this Court; however, the Summaries of Schedules would not indicate any realistic hope of recovery for creditors. See Bankruptcy Schedules, 04-37130, 37132 and 37136. It would appear then that the Plaintiffs can demonstrate the "concrete loss" required of a RICO plaintiff. See Isaak v. Trumbull S & L, 169 F.3d 390, 396 (6th Cir. 1999) (finding that plaintiff's RICO injury was ascertainable and definable by the time bankruptcy was filed); cf. Barnett v. Stern, 909 F.2d 973, 977 n. 4 (7th Cir.1990) (explaining that RICO plaintiff had failed to prove damages because they did not show inability to satisfy their claims from the bankruptcy estate) Efforts at prepetition collection having yielded nothing, the Plaintiffs have pleaded the requisite injury for RICO standing purposes.
Equity and the Trustee's Right to Raise RICO
The Defendants' final challenge to the RICO claims are directed to the Trustee Plaintiffs. They argue that because the alleged wrongful conduct of the Debtor Defendants must be imputed to them, the Trustees are precluded from raising such claims. Defendants' Reply Brief, 12-13. This refers, of course, to the doctrine of in pari delicto which
derives from the Latin, in pari delicto potior est conditio defendentis: "In a case of equal or mutual fault . . . the position of the [defending] party . . . is the better one." The defense is grounded on two premises: first, that courts should not lend their good offices to mediating disputes among wrongdoers; and second, that denying *557 judicial relief to an admitted wrongdoer is an effective means of deterring illegality.
Bateman Eichler, Hill Richards, Inc. v. Berner, 472 U.S. 299, 306, 105 S.Ct. 2622, 86 L.Ed.2d 215 (1985). As applied by the High Court, the doctrine requires: (1) that the plaintiff bear "substantially equal responsibility" for the alleged misdeeds, and (2) that precluding the plaintiffs suit would not significantly impair enforcement of the relevant laws. Id. at 310-11, 105 S.Ct. 2622.
There is no Third Circuit decision regarding whether this defense is applicable to RICO claims. Within the circuit, the sole decision coming closest to the question avoided the question on factual grounds. See Cohen v. Wolgin, 1988 WL 65970 *7 (E.D.Pa.). Elsewhere, it is only the Eleventh Circuit which has weighed in on this issue finding that a bankruptcy trustee's RICO claims were barred under the in pari delicto doctrine. See Laddin v. Edwards, 437 F.3d 1145, 1156 (11th Cir.2006) Because that decision offers useful guidance to the present case, it will be analyzed here at some length.
The Debtor, ETS, had operated a Ponzi scheme. Funds received from investors in the scheme were allegedly funneled into individual retirement accounts managed by three financial institutions (the IRA Custodians). The Trustee sued the IRA Custodians under RICO (as well as state law) alleging "a failure to conduct due diligence and/or by ignoring the facts altogether." Id. at 1148 The IRA Custodians moved to dismiss the RICO count based on the doctrine of in pari delicto. Id. at 1148-49.
The Eleventh Circuit began by noting' that "the federal law of affirmative defenses governs the enforcement of causes of action created by federal statutes." 437 F.3d at 1152 citing O'Melveny & Myers v. FDIC, 512 U.S. 79, 84-85, 114 S.Ct. 2048, 2053, 129 L.Ed.2d 67 (1994). Because no circuit decision had previously ruled on the question, the Eleventh Circuit turned to analogous decisions. It analyzed two Supreme Court cases in which the High Court considered the application of the in pari delicto doctrine in the enforcement of antitrust and securities laws. Id. at 1153 analyzing Bateman Eichler, supra and Perma Life Mufflers, Inc. v. Ina Parts Corp., 392 U.S. 134, 88 S.Ct. 1981, 20 L.Ed.2d 982 (1968) overruled on other grounds Copperweld Corp. v. Independence Tube Corp., 467 U.S. 752, 104 S.Ct. 2731, 81 L.Ed.2d 628 (1984). In both cases, the Supreme Court did not bar the plaintiffs' claim finding that each was a passive  as opposed to active  violator of the federal statute in question. In Perma Life, the plaintiffs were franchisees who alleged that the parent franchisor had conspired to restrain trade and fix prices. The franchisor argued that the franchisees were equally culpable by entering into the franchise agreement. In refusing to impute the wrongful conduct, the Court explained that the franchisees participated in the conspiracy only to the extent that they sought the franchises. Their participation "was not voluntary in any meaningful sense." Id. at 139, 88 S.Ct. at 1985. Similarly, in Bateman Eichler, the plaintiffs were recipient of stock tips that resulted in losses. When the tippees sued, the defendant argued that the tippees were culpable having received and acted upon inside information. Here, again, the High Court found the plaintiffs to be "passive" violators at worst and refused to apply the doctrine. It explained that "in its classic formulation, the in pari delicto defense was narrowly limited to situations where the plaintiff bore at least substantially equal responsibility for his injury." Id. at 306-07, 105 S.Ct. 2622.
*558 The Eleventh Circuit observed that crucial to the Supreme Court in both cases were the important distinctions between the relative culpability of the parties. 437 F.3d at 1154., The Circuit Court noted that a RICO violation requires active conduct or participation in the conduct. Id. at 1155. That conduct or participation must be both "affirmative and deliberate." Id. at 1156. Moreover, that conduct or participation must involve a "a pattern of racketeering activity." 18 U.S.C. § 1962(c). Those "activities" are specifically listed in the statute and involve serious offenses. See id., § 1961(1). In weighing the involvement of the parties in that case, it not only found that the IRA Custodians were not actively involved in the fraud, but even assuming the custodians bore some fault, the Debtor was in majore delicto, or greater wrong, as between the two. 437 F.3d at 1155. From that it concluded that the debtor "had substantially equal responsibility for its injury." Id. citing Bateman Eichler, 472 U.S. at 308-09, 105 S.Ct. at 2628.
That, however, would not end the Eleventh Circuit's analysis. It next inquired  consistent with Bateman Eichler  whether imputing the wrongdoing to the Trustee qua plaintiff "advance[d] the policy of civil liability under the federal RICO statute." Id. That policy, the circuit court noted, was to punish "any person" who violated RICO. Id. The statute's purpose, it recalled, was to "help eradicate organized crime from the social fabric by divesting an association of the fruits of ill-gotten gains." Id. at 1155 quoting Genty v. Resolution Trust Corp., 937 F.2d 899, 910 (3d Cir.1991). To allow the trustee to press the RICO claim, the Eleventh Circuit concluded, would not achieve that purpose. All that would occur in that case would be a transfer of those assets among similarly culpable creditors. Id. at 1155. Having found that both requirements for the application of the in pari delicto doctrine had been met, the Court precluded the Trustee's RICO claim. Id. at 1156 Should the RICO claims in this case be similarly dismissed?
In making that determination, the Court begins with a brief analysis of an issue not directly addressed by the Eleventh Circuit in Laddin: may a trustee as successor to a debtor prosecute prepetition choses of action free of defenses such as in pan delicto? To answer that question, the Court must analyze the pertinent legal framework. The trustee is, of course, the "rep resentative of the estate." 11 U.S.C. § 323(a). In that capacity, the "trustee . . . may prosecute . . . or commence and prosecute any action or proceeding in behalf of the estate before any tribunal." B.R. 6009. A leading commentator explains:
A trustee is empowered to commence actions on behalf of the estate. Such actions will fall into two categories: (1) those brought by the trustee as successor to the debtor's interest included in the estate under section 541 or those assigned to the trustee against third parties for the benefit of the estate; and (2) those brought under one or more of the trustee's avoiding powers.
3 Collier on Bankruptcy ¶ 323.03[2] (emphasis added). As the Third Circuit has explained, "in actions brought by the trustee as successor to the debtor's interest under section 541, the `trustee stands in the shoes of the debtor and can only assert those causes of action possessed by the debtor. [Conversely,] [t]he trustee is, of course, subject to the same defenses as could have been asserted by the defendant had the action been instituted by the debtor." Hays & Co. v. Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith, Inc., 885 F.2d 1149, 1154 (3d Cir.1989) (quoting Collier *559 on Bankruptcy ¶ 323.02[4], now found at ¶ 323.03[2]). These defenses affect the trustee's right to bring the claim just as they did the debtor's as they existed at the commencement of the bankruptcy. See Official Committee of Unsecured Creditors v. R.F. Lafferty & Co., Inc., 267 F.3d 340, 356 (3d cir.2001) citing legislative history. The RICO claims are not brought under an avoidance provision. Instead, they derive from the trustee's succession to a debtor's property and other rights. The Trustees', right to bring the RICO claims, then, is only as good as the Debtors.'
The Court turns then to the Defendants' contention that any wrongdoing on their part is shared by the Debtors, and thereby, the Trustees. If the Court weighs the relative degrees of culpability of Debtors and the Defendants, it is the Defendants who are responsible for the RICO violations. There is no doubt that the loans from Captec were taken in the name of Bagga Enterprises and Jamuna Real Estate and that United Management as well as the Welcome Group guaranteed those obligations. But again, those corporations are fictitious entities under the control"of Mr. Bagga: he is the sole shareholder of each and is, upon information and belief, an officer or director of each as well. Complaint, ¶ 11-13, 19, Moreover, all of the subsequent alleged racketeering acts in the Complaint were done at his direction. The claim that the Debtor, and thereby the Trustees, were active participants in the. RICO violations is not supported by what is alleged.
Neither would it serve the policy of the RICO statute to impute the Defendants' alleged wrongdoing to the Trustees. Allowing the Trustees to press the RICO claims poses no threat of shifting ill-gotten assets from one conspirator to another. A review of the Bankruptcy Schedules for each of the Debtor corporations demonstrates this. Neither debtor owes any secured debt. The combined priority claims consist of about $240,000 in tax debt. That leaves general unsecured debt. Eighty-five percent of the unsecured debt of Bagga Enterprises is owed to FL Receivables, the co-plaintiff. See Schedule F, Case no. 04-37136. In the case of United Management, FL holds 98% of such claims. Id. Case no. 04-37132. For Jamuna, FL and its predecessor Captec, are the sole creditors listed. Id. Case no. 04-37130. Moreover, to the extent any persons who are complicit in the wrongdoing have filed claims, the Trustees have the right to seek their disallowance. Based on what is alleged in the Complaint, there are no grounds to impute any of the alleged wrongdoing to the Plaintiffs.
Counts III, X and XV  Piercing the Corporate Veil
The Complaint pleads three alter ego counts. Count III is brought against Mr. and Mrs. Bagga. It asks the Court to disregard the corporate status of the Debtors and to hold the Baggas liable for the corporations' debts. Count X is brought against both the Baggas and the Chawlas seeking to hold them liable for the debts of the businesses which they control. Count XV is directed against all Defendants and seeks a declaration that the corporate structures be disregarded so it is no different from Count X.[13] The Defendants challenge all three counts on three grounds. They first argue that neither count states a claim for alter ego liability as to Mrs. Bagga or Messrs. Chawla. Defendants' Brief, 29-30. Neither count sets forth the essential element of control as to any of *560 the three persons.[14]Id. 33. As a second argument, they dispute the Trustees' standing to bring this sort of claim. Id. 39. For their part, the Plaintiffs argue obliquely that Mrs. Bagga's participation in her husband's scheme renders her liable as an alter ego under principles of civil conspiracy. Plaintiffs' Brief, 38, 46. The Defendants' final argument is limited to the request to pierce the corporate veils of K & P, Sant Properties, HB, and HB, Inc. The Defendants' argue that the Complaint simply does not implicate any of those entities so their corporate structures ought not to be disregarded. Defendants' Brief, 56.
The Court begins with the pleading requirements for an alter ego claim. The various factors which would support such a finding include (1) insufficient capitalization; (2) intermingling of funds; (3) non-functioning officers and directors; (4) absence of corporate formalities; (5) failure to pay dividends; (6) outward representation of sole proprietorship as opposed to incorporation. See Village at Camelback Property Owners Assn., Inc. v. Carr, 371 Pa.Super. 452, 465, 538 A.2d 528, 535 (Pa.Super.1988). In essence, what these factors boil down to is the exercise of control by the individuals over the corporate entity. Lumax Industries, Inc. v. Aultman, 543 Pa. 38, 43 669 A.2d 893, 895 (Pa.1995). Moreover, this domination must be complete and must have been exercised for the individual's personal benefit. Ashley v. Ashley, 482 Pa. 228, 237, 393 A.2d 637, 641 (1978).
Aside from the substance of the pleadings, the Court must ascertain the degree of specificity required. Under Pennsylvania law, claims to pierce the corporate veil are evaluated applying the notice pleading standard of Rule 8(a), unless fraud is a necessary element of the claim. Motorola, Inc., v. Airdesk, Inc., 2005 WL 894807 *2 (E.D.Pa.) citing Laborers v. Ruscitto, 848 F.Supp. 598, 600 (W.D.Pa. 1994). This general rule is consistent with the principle that Rule 9(b) should be "construed narrowly and not extended to other legal theories or defenses." Wright & Miller, Federal Practice and Procedure: Civil 3d § 1297 (1990). Although fraud is alleged in the count (see ¶¶ 194, 196, 202), the claim does not depend on an allegation of fraud. The viability of these counts will be judged F against the general, notice pleading standard.
The Role of Mrs. Bagga
Defendants first argue that the Complaint fails to allege that Khushvinder Bagga is the alter ego of the Debtors. Defendants' Brief, 33. Such a finding, they argue, would be based on control, which is demonstrated only as to Mr. Bagga.[15]Id. The Plaintiffs respond by arguing that Mrs. Bagga is part of a conspiracy with her husband. That makes her liable along with him for the debts of the businesses he controlled. Plaintiffs' Brief 38. What is the extent of her alleged involvement in her husband's business ventures?
According to the Complaint, it is significant. While Mrs. Bagga is neither a shareholder nor officer of the Debtor corporations, she controlled the movement of liquid assets between the various businesses. She was a signatory on the accounts *561 of the Debtor corporations having "controlled withdrawals and disbursements." Complaint, ¶ 101. In particular, it appears to have been in the United Management account into which moneys of the various entities were commingled. Id. ¶ 102. From that account, she and Mr. Bagga decided whom to pay and when to pay them. Id. ¶ 103. Among those persons paid, the Complaint goes on to allege, was herself in derogation of corporation formalities. Id. ¶ 104. This is alleged to include payment of upwards of $800,000 to herself and to her and Mr. Bagga of nearly $1.5 million. Id. ¶¶ 93, 95. Her explanation for some of those payments  to repay what she contends were loans she made to the businesses  is not supported by documentation. Id. ¶¶ 105, 106, 109. As to United, at least, Mrs. Bagga is alleged to have exercised sufficient degree of control to make out an alter ego claim. At the pleadings stage, then, the Complaint states a claim for piercing the corporate veil of United and making Mrs. Bagga liable for its debts."
She is also alleged to be the owner of K & P Real Estate LLC. Id. ¶ 22. K & P was the landlord to the Welcome Group's restaurants. Id. ¶ 17(a). Mrs. Bagga is alleged to have taken the profits of K & P  the rental payments from the Welcome Group  for herself. ¶ 93(g). These insider payments were never declared as such when Welcome filed. bankruptcy. ¶ 139. While there is no mention of the gardenvariety alter ego elements, e.g., non-functioning fiduciaries, intermingling of funds, failure to follow formalities, etc., the allegation that Mrs. Bagga took the rental payments from Welcome for herself indicate some degree of control. For pleading purposes, the Court finds that the Plaintiffs have stated as to K & P a cause of action that its corporate structure should be disregarded.
As to the claim that Mrs. Bagga's conduct makes her a conspirator with her husband, the Court observes that the Count does not mention the word conspiracy or plead any of the prima facie elements of civil conspiracy. Although derivative, a civil conspiracy claim is an independent cause of action. In Pennsylvania, to state a cause of action for civil conspiracy, the following elements are required: "(1) a combination of two or more persons acting with a common purpose to do an unlawful act or to do a lawful act by unlawful means or for an unlawful purpose; (2) an overt act done in pursuance of the common purpose; and (3) actual legal damage." General Refractories v. Fireman's Fund Insurance, 337 F.3d 297, 313 (3d Cir.2003); accord Gilmour v. Bohmueller, 2005 WL 241181 *8 (E.D.Pa.); McKeeman v. Corestates Bank, N.A., 751 A.2d 655, 660 (Pa.Super.Ct.2000) (citations omitted). To construe the allegations of Count III to also state a conspiracy claim against Mrs. Bagga would be unfair. As it is drafted, this count informs Mrs. Bagga of an alter ego claim, but it does not state a civil conspiracy claim against her.
The Role of the Chawlas
Count X (as well as Count XV) adds as liable Ravinder Chawla and his brother Hardeep Chawla as alter egos of the entities they control. Those entities are World Apparel d/b/a SJM Trading d/b/a Ten Tigers, Sant Properties, HB, LLP, and HB, Inc. The Defendants maintain that the Complaint does not allege a basis to disregard the corporate structure of either Sant Properties, HB, LLP or HB, Inc. Defendants' Brief, 56.[16]
*562 There is a paucity of detail which dooms the Plaintiffs alter ego claims as to the Chawlas and the companies they own or control. The Complaint identifies these entities as being owned by the Chawlas. Complaint, ¶¶ 23-27. However, there is simply no allegation that either Ravinder or Hardeep somehow took advantage of their own corporations or those controlled by the Baggas and harmed the Plaintiffs thereby. In the case of their own  World Apparel, Sant and HB  there is also no evidence of undercapitalization or other compromised financial state.[17] As to respect for corporate formalities, there is mention of some undocumented lending but that is all. There is not enough explanation as to how these entities were no more than artifices for the Chawla's designs. Even less is demonstrated for the Debtor corporations. Ravinder Chawla may have provided Mr. Bagga with a letter containing a false explanation as to why the loan proceeds could not be repaid but that does not connote control or domination. If anything, it was part of a fraud. There is, then, no legal basis here to sustain the alter ego claims against either of the Chawlas.[18]
Alter Ego Claims and the Trustee's Standing
The Defendants' last challenge to the alter ego claims is directed to the Trustees. They maintain that the Trustees lack standing to press those causes of action. Veil-piercing claims, they argue, are vested within the creditor injured by the corporate abuse. Defendants' Brief, 39-40. Such claims, they explain, are based on the trustee's avoidance power under § 544 of the Bankruptcy Code. Because that section allows a trustee to avoid only transfers of an interest of the debtor  as opposed to creditors  a trustee does not succeed to an alter ego claim. Alternatively, they argue that even those courts which have allowed a trustee to sue to pierce a corporate veil are based on applicable state law. For their part, the Trustee-Plaintiffs are silent on this point.
In reviewing the Defendants' first argument, the Court sees that it is based on an incorrect premise. Nothing in Counts III, X or XV indicates that the alter ego claims are raised in accordance with § 544. More likely, then, is that such claims are brought under § 541. They are claims of the Debtors to which the Trustees claim to have succeeded. Whatever the statutory predicate, the Third Circuit has not yet spoken on the issue. Elsewhere, the majority of the decisions have allowed a trustee to bring an alter ego claim, but the result is a function of the underlying state law. Compare St. Paul Fire & Marine Ins. Co. v. PepsiCo, 884 F.2d 688, 705 (2d Cir.1989) (holding that trustee has standing to raise alter ego claims under Ohio law); Steyr v. Pappas, 852 F.2d 132, 135 (4th Cir.1988) (allowing trustee to assert alter ego claims under Virginia law); Koch v. Farmers Union Central Exchange, Inc., 831 F.2d 1339, 1346 (7th Cir.1987) (permitting trustee to bring alter ego claim under either Indiana or Illinois law) with Mixon *563 v. Anderson (Ozark Restaurant Equip. Co., Inc.), 816 F.2d 1222, 1228 (8th Cir. 1987) (holding that under Arkansas law, trustee may not raise alter ego claims). Within this Circuit, one District Court has ruled similarly. See In re Eagle Enterprises, Inc., 265 B.R. 671, 678 (E.D.Pa. 2001) (holding that New York law allowed Trustee to pursue alter ego claim.) That brings the Court to the Defendants' second argument: Would Pennsylvania law allow a trustee qua successor to a corporation to bring an alter ego claim to pierce its own corporate shell?
The general standard for piercing the corporate veil is "when the court must prevent fraud, illegality, or injustice, or when recognition of the corporate entity would defeat public policy or shield someone from liability for a crime." Zubik v. Zubik, 384 F.2d 267, 272 (3d Cir.1967), cert. denied, 390 U.S. 988, 88 S.Ct. 1183, 19 L.Ed.2d 1291 (1968). See also, Kiehl v. Action Mfg. Co., 517 Pa. 183, 190, 535 A.2d 571, 574 (1987)(adhering to the same standard for piercing the corporate veil); Village At Camelback, 371 Pa.Super. at 461, 538 A.2d at 532-33 (relating the same standard as it applies to shareholders of the corporation). That standard does not apply, the Defendants maintain, when it is the corporation itself which seeks to pierce its own veil. Defendants' Brief, 40-41. Are the Defendants correct?
They are not. As the Third Circuit has acknowledged, albeit in dicta:
It may seem strange to allow a corporation to pierce its own veil, since it cannot claim to be either a creditor that was deceived or defrauded by the corporate fiction, or an involuntary tort creditor. In some states, however, piercing the corporate veil and alter ego actions are allowed to prevent unjust or inequitable results; they are not based solely on a policy of protecting creditors. [citations omitted] Because piercing the corporate veil or alter ego causes of action are based upon preventing inequity or unfairness, it is not incompatible with the purposes of the doctrines to allow a debtor corporation to pursue a claim based upon such a theory
Phar-Mor, Inc. v. Coopers & Lybrand (In re Phar-Mor, Inc.), 22 F.3d 1228, 1240 n. 20 (3d Cir.1994). This very rationale reflects the case law cited by Defendants to be inapposite. Defendants cite Rabinovici v. Solomont[19] for the broad proposition that a plaintiff may not pierce his own corporate veil. Defendants' Brief, 40. There, however, the plaintiff sought to have the court disregard the separate existence of a corporation formed by him. There was no risk of unfairness to an innocent third party creditor. Likewise, in Sams v. Redev. Auth. of New Kensington,[20] plaintiff-owners of two real estate parcels  one a partnership, the other a corporation  could not collapse the two for purposes of obtaining a higher assessment in an eminent domain proceeding. The policies upon which veil piercing are based, i.e., fraud or injustice, were not present there. See also Kiehl, 517 Pa. at 191-92, 535 A.2d at 575 (disallowing subsidiary from piercing parent's veil shield itself from liability under workman's compensation law).
Such opportunistic use of the alter ego doctrine is not what the Complaint indicates. In Count III, the Trustees maintain that Mr. and Mrs. Bagga have abused the corporate forms for the benefit of themselves and to the detriment of the *564 creditors. Likewise, in Counts X and XV, essentially the same is alleged as to all of the individual defendants. As this remedy would serve to benefit those alleged to have been wronged by the individual defendants, Pennsylvania law would allow the Trustee to disregard the Debtors' corporate structures and impose liability on the individual defendants.
Count IV  Fraudulent Transfer
Three challenges are made to the fraudulent transfer claims: concurrent jurisdiction in the District Court, failure to state a claim, and untimeliness. Defendants' Brief, 42-47. Plaintiffs maintain that none of these argument have merit. Plaintiffs' Brief, 40-44.
Concurrent Jurisdiction
The Defendants contend because the same cause of action remains pending in the District Court, it is the Court before whom the claim was first filed which has jurisdiction of it. The first-filed rule, which commands that "in all cases of federal concurrent jurisdiction, the court which first has possession of the subject must decide it." EEOC v. Univ. of Pa., 850 F.2d 969, 971 (3d Cir.1988) (citation omitted). Because the first-filed rule rests on equitable principles, the decision to apply the rule is committed to the sound discretion of the trial court. Id. at 977; see also Stone Creek Mech., Inc. v. Carnes Co., 2002 WL 31424390 *2 (E.D.Pa.). "Under this standard, a court must act `with regard to what is right and equitable under the circumstances and the law, and directed by the reason and conscience of the judge to a just result.'" EEOC, 850 F.2d at 977 quoting Langnes v. Green, 282 U.S. 531, 541, 51 S.Ct. 243, 247, 75 L.Ed. 520 (1931). The first-filed rule empowers a court to enjoin subsequent proceedings in another district court involving the same parties and issues that are pending before the first court. Id. at 971 citing Triangle Conduit & Cable Co, v. Nat'l Elec. Prods. Corp., 125 F.2d 1008, 1009 (3d Cir.1942).
Because multiple district courts adjudicating the same controversy between the same parties would waste scarce judicial resources, the first court properly cognizant of the controversy should decide the issues before it. Accordingly, the first-filed rule seeks to "avoid burdening the federal judiciary and to prevent the judicial embarrassment of conflicting judgments." EEOC, 850 F.2d at 977. Although the first-filed rule is firmly rooted in the Third Circuit, equity requires that a court employs a flexible approach in applying the rule, focusing on the particular circumstances presented. Oak Associates, Ltd. v. Palmer, 2006 WL 293385 *3 (E.D.Pa.) (observing the Third Circuit's admonition that first-filed rule "is not a rigid or inflexible rule to be mechanically applied"). While exceptions to the rule are rare, a district court may depart from the first-filed rule upon a showing of bad faith, inequitable conduct, extraordinary circumstances, or forum shopping. Id. at 972, 976-77 (citations omitted); see also Koresko v. Nationwide Life Ins. Co., 403 F.Supp.2d 394, 399 (E.D.Pa.2005) (courts may depart from first-filed rule if second-filed action is further along than first-filed or first-filed is anticipatory filing); Am. Soc'y for Testing & Materials v. Corrpro Cos., 254 F.Supp.2d 578, 580 (E.D.Pa. 2003).
In this case, none of the exceptions would apply. There is no indication of bad faith or inequity in Plaintiffs having chosen to file the same claim here. Indeed, the reason is obvious: the intervening bankruptcy resulted in the appointment of two trustees who bring the same claims on behalf of the estates. This also indicates that forum-shopping is not implicated here. Finally, there is not an identity *565 of parties given that the Trustees were not appointed until after the bankruptcies were filed. There are no grounds, then, to preclude Count IV based on principles of concurrent jurisdiction.
Does Count IV State, a Claim?
The Defendants' next challenge to the fraud count is that it fails to state a claim. But where many fraud counts are disputed for lack of factual specificity, what is alleged here goes to the legal sufficiency of what is alleged.[21] The Defendants point out that the count does not state whether it is based on the state fraudulent transfer statute (made applicable to trustees under § 544(b)) or on the Bankruptcy Code's own fraudulent transfer provision (§ 548). For the Defendants, this matters because if it is based on the former, then the count's failure to identify an actual creditor for standing purposes renders it deficient; if it is the latter, then the claim is time-barred. Defendants' Brief, 44. They add that elsewhere the Complaint alleges transfers made by entities other than the Debtors. Such transfers, they conclude, cannot be fraudulent as to the Debtors. Id., 45. The Plaintiffs generally dispute all of these contentions. Plaintiffs' Brief, 41-43.
An analysis of the legal sufficiency of the fraud count is aided by a brief review of the rules of pleading in Federal Court. Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 8(a)(2)[22] provides that a complaint must include only "a short and plain statement of the claim showing that the pleader is entitled to relief." Swierkiewicz v. Sorema, N.A., 534 U.S. 506, 512, 122 S.Ct. 992; 998, 152 L.Ed.2d 1 (2002). Such a statement must simply "give the defendant fair notice of what the plaintiff's claim is and the grounds upon which it rests." Conley v. Gibson, 355 U.S. 41, 47, 78 S.Ct. 99, 103, 2 L.Ed.2d 80 (1957). A complaint need not plead law or match facts to every element of a legal theory. Weston v. Pennsylvania, 251 F.3d 420, 429 (3d Cir.2001). See also Linker v. Custom  Bilt Machinery, Inc., 594 F.Supp. 894, 901-02 (E.D.Pa. 1984) ("Rule 8 is satisfied when the statement of the claim provides `fair notice to the adversary of the nature and basis of the claim asserted and a general indication of the type of litigation involved.'" (quoting Continental Collieries v. Shober, 130 F.2d 631, 635 (3d Cir.1942))). "There is no requirement to state facts sufficient to constitute a cause of action." Pennsylvania Real Estate Investment Trust v. SPS Technologies, Inc., 1995 WL 687003 *4 (E.D.Pa.) (quoting Schaedler v. Reading Eagle Publication, Inc., 370 F.2d 795, 798 (3d Cir.1967)).
This simplified notice pleading standard relies on liberal discovery rules and summary judgment motions to define disputed facts and issues and to dispose of unmeritorious claims. Swierkiewicz, supra, id.; Leatherman v. Tarrant County Narcotics Intelligence and Coordination Unit, 507 U.S. 163, 168-169, 113 S.Ct. 1160, 1163, 122 L.Ed.2d 517 (1993). "The provisions for discovery are so flexible and the provisions for pretrial procedure and summary judgment so effective, that attempted surprise in federal practice is aborted very easily, synthetic issues detected, and the gravamen of the dispute brought frankly into the open for the inspection of the court." Wright & Miller, Federal Practice and Procedure Civ 3d: § 1202 (2007).
*566 While these rules eschew technical forms of pleading, what is averred must be done so in a manner simple, concise and direct. F.R.C.P. 8(e)(1). See Yurman Design, Inc. v. Chaindom Enter., Inc., 2002 WL 1402305 *2 (S.D.N.Y.) ("The liberal rules of pleadings in the federal system are not without limits.") Defendants argue that Count IV has exceeded those limits in failure to identify the specific fraudulent transfer provision upon which it is based. Their point is well-made. To be sure, §§ 544 and 548 have much in common. See In re Carrozzella & Richardson, 286 B.R. 480, 483 n. 3 (D.Conn. 2002)("With few exceptions, the basic principles governing fraudulent transfer actions are the same, regardless of the statutory basis used"). See In re Pajaro Dunes Rental Agency, Inc., 174 B.R. 557, 572 (Bankr.N.D.Cal.1994)("Unless otherwise specified, common-law authorities and case-law dealing with the UFCA, UFTA, Bankruptcy. Act of 1898 or the Bankruptcy Code may be cross-referenced whatever the statutory basis of the action at bar.") However, the respective challenges made by the Defendant highlight those differences. The Trustee's standing to bring a state law fraudulent transfer action under § 544 depends on the existence of an actual creditor harmed by the transfer sought to be avoided.. The existence of such a creditor must be pleaded in the Complaint. See Kaliner v. Load-Rite Trailers, Inc., (In re Sverica Acquisition Corp.), 179 B.R. 457, 465 (Bankr.E.D.Pa.1995) (holding that Trustee's failure to identify actual creditor harmed by transfer precluded standing).[23] Conversely, the Defendants raise the statute of limitations (one year) as to any claims under § 548. The Complaint however, does not specifically state when the avoidable transfers were made. The effect of all this is to leave the Defendants to guess which legal theory it is. That is a failure to set forth a short plain statement entitling the pleader to relief which is the relatively liberal standard. See Levitch v. CBS, Inc., 94 F.R.D. 292, 295 (S.D.N.Y. 1982) (second amended complaint insufficient where defendant required to guess which' part of first amended complaint incorporated.); Foreman v. General Motors Corp., 473 F.Supp. 166, 180 (E.D.Mich. 1979) (complaint insufficient where defendant required to guess what the claims are). See F.R.C.P. 10(b) (made applicable by B.R. 7010 and requiring that "each claim founded on a separate transaction or occurrence . . . shall be stated in a separate count . . . whenever a separation facilitates the clear presentation of the matters set forth.") Moreover, such a cryptic approach is completely unnecessary given that the rules allow for pleading in the alternative. See F.R.C.P. 8(e)(2). Accordingly, Count IV will be dismissed without prejudice and with leave to amend for those reasons as well as those which follow.[24]
*567 Is Count IV Untimely?
The final challenge to the fraud count is based on the applicable statute of repose. Defendants' Brief, 46. They contend that to the extent that the Complaint seeks avoidance of transfers made in the year 2000, such claims are extinguished by law. Id. 48. The Defendants correctly point out that the Pennsylvania Uniform Fraudulent Transfer Act provides for a four year statute of repose:
A cause of action with respect to a fraudulent transfer or obligation under this chapter is extinguished unless action is brought:
(1) under section 5104(a)(1) (relating to transfers fraudulent as to present and future creditors), within four years after the transfer was made or the obligation was incurred or, if later, within one year after the transfer or obligation was or could reasonably have been discovered by the claimant;
or
(2) under section 5104(a)(2) or 5105 (relating to transfers fraudulent as to present creditors), within four years after the transfer was made or the obligation was incurred.
12 P.S. § 5109 (emphasis added). The word "extinguished" is emphasized because of its substantive effect:
The difference between statutes of repose and statutes of limitations is that statutes of limitation[s] are procedural devices which bar recovery on a viable cause of action, where statutes of repose are substantive in nature because they extinguish a cause of action and preclude its revival. In addition, statutes of limitation[s] begin to run from the time of an injurious occurrence or discovery of the same, whereas statutes of repose run for a statutorily determined period of time after a definitely established event independent of an injurious occurrence or discovery of the same.
Miller v. Stroud Township, 804 A.2d 749, 752 (Pa.Commw.2002) (emphasis added)
The Plaintiffs' response to all this is that Plaintiff FL Receivables filed the same claim in the District Court in 2003  which is within the 4 year repose period  and have sought to consolidate that action with the instant case. Plaintiffs' Brief, 43. They add that the year 2000 transfers were just the beginning of the avoidable payments made by the Debtors. Id. Those transfers made after 2000 are well within the time bar. Id. Finally, the Defendants invoke the benefit of Bankruptcy Code § 108(a) which extends any pending deadline by up to two years from the date the case was filed.[25]Id., 44. Because the bankruptcy was filed in late December 2004, that time period has not yet lapsed. Id.
The Court finds the Plaintiffs' points to be well-made. FL Receivables commenced its claims in the District Court in a timely fashion. The claims were brought in this Court only because of the *568 intervening bankruptcies. Moreover, the Complaint pleads more than just transfers having been made in 2000. The existence of avoidable payments within the four year bar renders the count viable. In sum, Count IV will be dismissed without prejudice to allow the Plaintiffs to identify which fraudulent transfer provision supports their claims.
Turnover
Counts VI, VII, and VIII raise claim for turnover under § 542 of the Bankruptcy Code. Defendants maintain that the allegations in those counts do not constitute claims for turnover. Only claims to property which are not subject to a bona fide dispute may be validly pursued via the Code's turnover provisions. Defendants' Brief, 48-49. Plaintiffs offer no response to this argument and that is not surprising. As the Court confirmed in its Opinion regarding core versus non-core matters, the estate may not demand turnover of property subject to a dispute. The Third Circuit has explained that a "bona fide dispute" exists only when there is "a genuine issue of material fact that bears upon the debtor's liability, or a meritorious contention as to the application of law to undisputed facts." B.D.W. Associates v. Busy Beaver Bldg. Ctrs., 865 F.2d 65, 66 (3d Cir.1989)(quoting In re Lough, 57 B.R. 993, 997 (Bankr.E.D.Mich.1986)). The dispute over such factual or legal issue must also be substantial. Id. (quoting In re Busick, 831 F.2d 745, 746 (7th Cir.1987)) Applying this definition to the three counts, the Court sees that the defendants "adamantly" dispute that they have done anything wrong or that they diverted money from the Debtors to themselves. Defendants' Brief, 49. For that reason, the Plaintiffs have failed to state a claim for turnover and Counts VI, VII and VIII must be dismissed.
Common Law Fraud
Count IX of the Complaint alleges that all individual Defendants are liable for common law fraud. Defendants maintain that such a claim is not sufficiently made out as to either Khushvinder Bagga, Ravinder Chawla, or Hardeep Chawla. They add  in anticipation of Plaintiffs' counter  that there is no allegation of conspiracy to commit fraud among these individuals. The Count is based on fraudulent misrepresentations, Defendants explain, and there is no allegation that any of these three Defendants made any representation to the lender. Defendants' Brief, 50-52. Indeed, the Plaintiffs' Response proves Defendants' prescience: in their response, Plaintiffs re-characterize their claim against Mrs. Bagga and the Chawlas as conspiracy to commit fraud, as opposed to fraud per se. Plaintiffs' Brief, 44-45.
The Court begins with the question of whether fraud is pleaded as to those individuals other than Mr. Bagga. On that score, the Court is in agreement with the Defendants: there is no allegation that either Mrs. Bagga or either of the Chawlas made any representations to the lender. It is Mr. Bagga who is the prime mover of the fraud as to Captec. But can Count IX be fairly construed to state a claim against these other defendants for conspiracy to commit fraud?
The applicable rules provide that "a party may set forth two or more statement of a claim alternatively or hypothetically, either in one count or in separate counts." F.R.C.P. 8(e)(2). However, the elements of a civil conspiracy claim, while derivative, are distinct from the underlying claim of fraud. In Pennsylvania, civil conspiracy is pleaded by alleging: "(1) a combination of two or more persons acting with a common purpose to do an unlawful act or to do a lawful act by unlawful means or for an *569 unlawful purpose; (2) an overt act done in pursuance of the common purpose; and (3) actual legal damage." Chantilly Farms, Inc. v. W. Pikeland Tarp., 2001 WL 290645 *13 (E.D.Pa.) (quoting Smith v. Wagner, 403 Pa.Super. 316, 322-23, 588 A.2d 1308, 1311-12 (Pa.Super.1991)) The standard of pleadings for civil conspiracy based on fraud is high. See Lum, supra, 361 F.3d at 228 ("Because plaintiffs allege that the defendants accomplished the goal of their conspiracy through fraud, the Amended Complaint is subject to Rule 9(b)") Can Count IX be construed to sufficiently plead those elements?
The Court finds that it cannot. Beginning with the count itself, the Court sees that it bears the title "FRAUD" and nothing else. The Count is not pleaded in the alternative to allege conspiracy; neither, for that matter is the word "conspiracy" used in that count or the entire Complaint. Within the Count, the Plaintiffs cite the elements for a garden variety claim of fraudulent misrepresentation: intentional misrepresentation, justifiable reliance on those statements, and resulting injury. What the Plaintiff do not set forth is that this fraud was the result of a conspiracy. The Court is well aware that Rule 8 requires the Court to construe the pleadings to do substantial justice. See F.R.C.P. 8(f). That applies, however, to the Defendants as well the Plaintiffs. To allow the Plaintiff to re-characterize this count as one for conspiracy works an unfairness upon the Defendants. They would not be confronted with a "short plain statement" informing them that they are charged with having conspired to defraud the Plaintiffs.
The upshot of all this is the Count IX will be judged as legally sufficient as to the extent it states a claim for common law fraud. In that regard, the Complaint fails to state a fraud claim against Mrs. Bagga or Messrs. Chawla. Count IX will be dismissed, without prejudice, as to those Defendants.
Breach of Fiduciary Duty
Counts XI through XIII allege that the individual defendants breached their duties as fiduciaries of the various business entities they controlled. Count XI alleges that all of the individuals engaged in self-dealing to the detriment of the Plaintiffs. Count XII alleges that the Baggas transferred the Debtors' property from the companies they controlled to the Chawlas or the companies they controlled. Count XIII alleges that the individual Defendants are guilty of having deepened the insolvency of all of the businesses controlled by them. As to all three counts, the Defendants argue that each fails to state a claim against Mrs. Bagga or Messrs. Chawla. Defendants' Brief, 52. They explain that there is simply no allegation that each has a fiduciary relationship with the Plaintiffs. Id. 53. Plaintiffs disagree arguing that Mrs. Bagga's check-writing authority for the Debtors makes her a fiduciary of those entities. As to the Chawlas, they vaguely assert that the "millions of dollars going back and forth between the Debtors and the Chawla companies" indicates a fiduciary relationship. Plaintiffs' Brief, 47. Do these counts plead a claim against those individuals other than Mr. Bagga?
Fiduciary status is defined by statute as well as common law. Pennsylvania's Corporations and Unincorporated Associations law establishes a fiduciary duty owed by directors and officers to their corporation as follows:
(a) Directors.  A director of a domestic corporation shall stand in a fiduciary relation to the corporation and shall perform his duties as a director, including his duties as a member of any committee of the board upon which he may serve, in good faith, in a *570 manner he reasonably believes to be in the best interests of the corporation and with such care, including reasonable inquiry, skill and diligence, as a person of ordinary prudence would use under similar circumstances.
. . .
(c) Officers.  Except as otherwise provided in the articles, an officer shall perform his duties as an officer in good faith, in a manner he reasonably believes to be in the best interests of the corporation and, with such care, including reasonable inquiry, skill and diligence, as a person of ordinary prudence would use under similar circumstances. A person who so performs his duties shall not be liable by reason of having been an officer of the corporation.
15 P.S. § 512. Thus, officers and directors of a corporation are considered fiduciaries under the Pennsylvania law of corporations. Miller v. Dutil (In re Total Containment, Inc.), 335 B.R. 589, 602 (Bankr. E.D.Pa.2005).
Case law expands the scope of fiduciary responsibility to dominant or controlling shareholders. See Pepper v. Litton, 308 U.S. 295, 306, 60 S.Ct. 238, 245, 84 L.Ed. 281 (1939) ("[Directors' and dominant or controlling shareholders'] dealings with the corporation are subjected to rigorous scrutiny and where any of their contracts or engagements with the corporation is challenged the burden is on the director or stockholder not only to prove the good faith of the transaction but also to show its inherent fairness from the viewpoint of the corporation and those interested therein.") (citing Geddes v. Anaconda Copper Mining Co., 254 U.S. 590, 599, 41 S.Ct. 209, 212, 65 L.Ed. 425 (1921)); In re Athos Steel and Aluminum, Inc., 71 B.R. 525, 540 (Bankr.E.D.Pa.1987) (majority shareholder has duty to the corporation and the minority shareholders if it "dominates the board of directors and controls the corporation."). When a corporation is insolvent, the fiduciary duty of the controlling shareholders arises in favor of corporate creditors. See Travelers Casualty and Surety Co. v. Irex Corp., 2002 WL 32351176 *3 (E.D.Pa.) ("Cases interpreting Pennsylvania law hold that a controlling shareholder is a fiduciary of the corporation as are corporate officers; cases further hold that a fiduciary relationship develops between a controlling shareholder and creditors of the corporation, as it does between officers of the corporation and creditors of the corporation, at the point the corporation becomes insolvent.") It similarly treats as fiduciaries persons in whom a special confidence has been reposed. See In re Johnson, 292 B.R. 821, 828 (Bankr.E.D.Pa.2003) ("One can be considered a fiduciary where `one person has reposed a special confidence in another to the extent that the parties do not deal with each other on equal terms, either because of an overmastering dominance on one side or weakness, dependence or justifiable trust, on the other.") citing Destefano & Associates, Inc. v. Cohen, 2002 WL 1472340 *3 (Pa.Com.Pl.), quoting Commonwealth Dept. of Transp. v. E-Z Parks, Inc., 153 Pa.Cmwlth. 258, 266, 620 A.2d 712, 717 (1993); see also Lichtman v. Taufer, 2004 WL 1632574 *7 (Pa.Com.Pl.) (same). Finally, "an agency relationship is a fiduciary one, and the agent is subject to a duty of loyalty to act only for the principal's benefit." Sutliff v. Sutliff, 515 Pa. 393, 404, 528 A.2d 1318, 1323 (1987) citing Restatement (Second) of Agency § 387 (1958). Would either Mrs. Bagga, Ravinder Chawla or Hardeep Chawla come within any of these definitions of a fiduciary?
It is clear from the Complaint that neither of the three are officers, directors or shareholders of the Debtor corporations. *571 Only Mr. Bagga is mentioned as being an officer and director of the Debtor corporations. Complaint, ¶ 19. Mr. Bagga is the sole shareholder of the Debtor corporations. Id. ¶ 11-18. In fact, it is specifically alleged that Mrs. Bagga is neither an officer, owner or employee of the Debtor corporations. Id. ¶ 192. There is no (mention of either of the Chawlas being owners, officers or directors of those entities. The Plaintiffs see Mrs. Bagga's control or influence over the Debtors in her check-writing authority. Plaintiffs' Brief, 47. However, the legal authority which they cite to support that conclusion is inapposite. In Docteroff,[26] while the debtor was not a director or officer of a corporation which he was alleged to have defrauded, he was a director and shareholder of an entity which, in turn, owned that corporation. 133 F.3d at 217. The citations to Voest-Alpine[27] is even less persuasive: the principals charged with fiduciary status as to the defrauded corporation were 100% owners of that entity. See 919 F.2d at 208. The closest that the Court's own research comes to finding a case equating checkwriting authority with a fiduciary is regarding ERISA actions. See, e.g., In re Mushroom Transportation Co., 282 B.R. 805, 826 (E.D.Pa.2002) reversed on other grounds, 382 F.3d 325 (3d Cir.2004); Guardsmark, Inc. v. Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Tenn., 313 F.Supp.2d 739, 751 (W.D.Tenn.2004). However, the allegation that Mrs. Bagga was empowered with the discretion to pay who she wanted to pay and when indicates a fairly substantial degree of control over these corporations. Complaint ¶¶ 103-106. She is alleged to have abused that power which resulted in self-dealing, depleting assets of the debtors, and increasing their insolvent state. For that reason, as to Mrs. Bagga at least, the Court cannot find that the Complaint does not state a viable fiduciary claim against her.
Nothing like that control or influence is attributed to either of the Chawlas. While it is alleged that millions of dollars passed back and forth between their companies and Mr. Bagga's (Complaint, ¶¶ 32, 34, 95-97), that does not establish that either was in a position of control as to the Debtors. Throughout the Complaint, it is Mr. Bagga who is alleged to be in control of these companies.
Aiding and Abetting a Breach of Fiduciary Duty
Count XIV charges the individual defendants with having aided and abetted those individuals who breached fiduciary duties. The Defendants argue that this counts fails because the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has yet to rule whether aiding or abetting a breach of a fiduciary duty states a cognizable legal claim. Defendants' Brief, 55. Alternatively, they argue that even if it is a cause of action, the claim fails as to Mrs. Bagga and Hardeep Chawla. Id. For their part, the Plaintiffs offer the conclusory argument that this count pleads that Mrs. Bagga and Messrs. Chawla aided Mr. Bagga in his fiduciary breaches. Plaintiffs' Brief, 47.
The Court takes up first the question of whether this counts states a claim as a matter of law. Useful in this regard is the recent opinion of the United States District Court for the District of Delaware in Stanziale v. Pepper Hamilton, LLP (In re Student Finance Corp.) 335 B.R. 539 (D.Del.2005). There, the District Court had to divine whether the Pennsylvania high court would recognize *572 such claim.[28] What follows is an exhaustive survey of how Pennsylvania Courts  both state and federal  have ruled on this question:
Neither the Pennsylvania Supreme Court nor the Court of Appeals for the ` Third Circuit has considered whether aiding and abetting a breach of fiduciary duty is a valid cause of action under Pennsylvania law. When called to apply substantive state law with respect to an issue that the state's highest court has not addressed, a federal court must predict how the state's highest court would resolve the issue. Jaasma v. Shell Oil Co., 412 F.3d 501, 507 n. 5 (3d Cir.2005). However, "it is not the role of a federal court to expand state law in ways not foreshadowed by state precedent" City of Philadelphia v. Beretta U.S.A. Corp., 277 F.3d 415, 421 (3d Cir.2002). In determining what the Pennsylvania Supreme Court would decide if presented with an issue it has not considered, this Court examines: "(1) what the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has said in related areas; (2) the `decisional law' of the Pennsylvania intermediate courts; (3) opinions of federal courts of appeals and district courts applying state law; and (4) decisions from other jurisdictions that have discussed the issue. . . ." Dilworth v. Metropolitan Life Ins. Co., 418 F.3d 345, 349 (3d Cir.2005) (citing Gruber v. Owens-Illinois Inc., 899 F.2d 1366, 1369-70 (3d Cir.1990)).
One of Pennsylvania's two intermediate courts, the Commonwealth Court, has concluded that aiding and abetting a breach of fiduciary duty is a valid cause of action under Pennsylvania common law, basing its conclusion on the Restatement (Second) of Torts § 876. Koken v. Steinberg, 825 A.2d 723, 731 (Pa.Cmwlth.2003). Pennsylvania's other intermediate court, the Superior Court, has been more equivocal. In Burnside v. Abbott Labs, the Superior Court favorably discussed the related cause of action of "concerted action" under § 876 of the Restatement, but concluded that the Appellant had not established a prima facie case. 351 Pa.Super. 264, 505 A.2d 973, 982-83' (1985). The Superior Court also noted that "this cause of action has not heretofore been recognized in this Commonwealth as a valid basis for imposing liability." Id., 505 A.2d at 983. More recently, the Superior Court has made it clear that § 876 has not yet been adopted as law in Pennsylvania. See Welc v. Porter, 450 Pa.Super. 112, 675 A.2d 334, 338 (1996) (stating that "[a]lthough [§§ 876(a) and (b)] have been addressed by this Court, . . . these pronouncements are not controlling as the discussions either did not command a majority or constituted dicta. Moreover, these sections heretofore have not been expressly adopted."); see also Clayton v. McCullough 448 Pa.Super. 126, 670 A.2d 710, 713 (1996) (stating that "we are not bound by § 876(b) of the Restatement 2d, as it has not been adopted by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court").
The United States District. Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania has predicted that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court would recognize a claim for aiding and abetting breach *573 of fiduciary duty. See Adena, Inc. v. Cohn, 162 F.Supp.2d 351-357 (E.D.Pa. 2001). However, Pennsylvania's other two Federal District Courts have refused to expand Pennsylvania law to include that cause of action. See Flood v. Makowski, No. 03-1803, slip op. at *36, 2004 WL 1908221 (M.D.Pa. 2004) (stating that the court was "hesitant to create an entirely new cause of action on the basis of two cases from the lower courts in Pennsylvania and dictum from a third court"); see also Daniel Boone Area School Dist. v. Lehman Bros., Inc., 187 F.Supp.2d 400, 413 (W.D.Pa.2002) (refusing to expand Pennsylvania tort liability by adopting § 876(b)).
335 B.R. at 550-51. Taking into account all of the foregoing, the District Court of Delaware concluded that there was an insufficient basis to conclude that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court would decide that aiding and abetting breach of fiduciary duty is a valid cause of action under Pennsylvania law. Id. This Court, however, will defer to the decisions of the District Court in this District which have allowed a plaintiff to press this cause of action. See, e.g., Adena, 162 F.Supp.2d at 357-58; Schuylkill Skyport Inn, Inc. v. Rich, 1996 WL 502280 *38 (E.D.Pa.); SDK Investments, Inc. v. Ott, 1996 WL 69402 *12 (E.D.Pa.); and Pierce v. Rossetta Corp., 1992 WL 165817 *8 (E.D.Pa.)[29]
Did Either Mrs. Bagga or Hardeep Chawla Aid or Abet a Fiduciary's Breach?
To establish such a claim, a plaintiff must show: (1) a breach of fiduciary duty owed to another; (2) knowledge of the breach by the aider or abettor; and (3) substantial assistance or encouragement by the aider or abettor in effecting that breach. Adena, supra, 162 F.Supp.2d at 357-58. As a breach of fiduciary claim is subject to a notice pleading standard, see Total Containment, supra, 335 B.R. at 611, that standard will similarly govern a claim that one aided and aided another breaching such duty. Does the Complaint sufficiently state such a claim as to Mrs. Bagga or Hardeep Chawla?
As to Mrs. Bagga, it is alleged that she was the signatory on the bank accounts of Bagga Enterprises, United and the Welcome Group. Complaint, ¶ 101. Her husband had access to her signature stamp for those accounts. Id. In the same year that the borrowers lost $1.8 million, the Complaint goes on, the Baggas paid themselves almost $1.5 million. Id. ¶ 107. Because such payments stripped those entities of capital, a breach of fiduciary duty is stated. As signatory on those accounts, Mrs. Bagga aided and abetted the alleged breaches.
That leaves Hardeep Chawla. Other than describing him as Ravinder's brother and co-owner of World Apparel, Sant Properties, HB, LLP and HB, Inc., the Complaint does not specifically mention him again. Complaint, ¶¶ 16, 23-27. Thereafter, the Complaint refers to the "Chawlas" or Ravinder Chawla. Where the Chawlas may have aided or abetted fiduciary breaches, the Complaint explains, *574 is in assisting Mr. Bagga in moving money between their companies and those controlled by Mr. Bagga. Complaint, VI 32, 34, 95-97. They were alleged to be have paid Mr. and Mrs. Bagga nearly $1.2 million which was rightly the property of the "already insolvent Bagga Companies." Id. ¶ 95. That would constitute aiding or abetting a fiduciary who was self-dealing and stripping his company of capital. Based on these allegations, then, the Complaint states a claim against Hardeep Chawla (as well as his brother Ravinder) for aiding and abetting a breach of a fiduciary duty.
Summary
To reiterate, and after reviewing all of the Defendants' challenges to the Complaint, the Court concludes that Count I states a RICO claim against Pratpal Bagga, Khushvinder Bagga and Ravinder Chawla; that Count II states a RICO conspiracy claim against all of the Defendants; that Count III states a claim to pierce the corporate veil of the entities controlled by Pratpal Bagga and Khushvinder Bagga; that Count IV will be dismissed without prejudice; that Counts VI through VIII will be dismissed with prejudice; that Count IX will be dismissed as to Mrs. Bagga and Messrs. Chawla without prejudice; that Count X will be dismissed as Ravinder Chawla and Hardeep Chawla without prejudice; that Counts XI, XII and XIII are dismissed as to Ravinder Chawla and Hardeep Chawla; that Count XIV states a claim as to Ravinder and Hardeep Chawla; and that Count XV will be dismissed as to Ravinder Chawla and Hardeep Chawla without prejudice.
An appropriate order follows.

Order
And now, upon consideration of the Defendants' Motion to Dismiss Plaintiffs' Adversary Complaints, the Plaintiffs' Response thereto, after hearing held, the opportunity to submit briefs and for the reasons stated in the attached Opinion, it is hereby:
Ordered, that the Motion is denied as to Counts I, II and III; that the Motion is granted as to Count IV but that such count is dismissed without prejudice; that the Motion is granted as to Counts VI, VII and VII and that such counts are dismissed; that the Motion to dismiss Count IX is granted, only as to Khushvinder Bagga, Ravinder Chawla and Hardeep Chawla, albeit without prejudice; that the Motion to dismiss Count X is granted, in part and that count is dismissed against Ravinder Chawla and Hardeep Chawla, without prejudice; that the Motion to dismiss Counts XI, XII and XIII are granted in part as to Ravinder Chawla and Hardeep Chawla, without prejudice; that the Motion to Dismiss Count XIV is denied; and that the Motion to Dismiss Count XV will be granted it being duplicative of Count X.
NOTES
[1]  Made applicable by B.R. 7012(b).
[2]  18 U.S.C. § 1961 et seq. RICO creates a private cause of action for a person injured in business or property under 18 U.S.C. § 1962. 18 U.S.C. § 1964(c); Sedima, S.P.R.L. v. Imrex Co., 473 U.S. 479, 496, 105 S.Ct. 3275, 3286, 87 L.Ed.2d 346 (1985).
[3]  Although Reves involved a motion for summary judgment, the Third Circuit has held that its holding is applicable to a motion to dismiss. See University of Maryland v. Peat, Marwick, Main & Co., 996 F.2d 1534, 1539 (3d Cir.1993) (rejecting argument that Reves test applies only in a summary judgment context)
[4]  This extends over 30 pages and 159 paragraphs.
[5]  It fills almost an entire page of the Complaint.
[6]  Although tax fraud is alleged to be one of the predicate acts of the enterprise, the body of the RICO counts do not allege it. This is not surprising as the Third Circuit has explained that tax fraud is not "racketeering activity" under RICO. See United States v. Morelli, 169 F.3d 798, 804 (3d Cir.1999)
[7]  Given that these representations were made via fax, the precise time of the misrepresentation should be easily determined.
[8]  Presumably, this is based on Chawla's April 2, 2001 letter to Mr. Bagga offering the allegedly false explanation that the loan proceeds were lost in the bad business deal. Id. ¶ 80.
[9]  Curiously, Hardeep Chawla is not mentioned in this paragraph notwithstanding that the count is direct at all defendants.
[10]  Identified simply as a clothing company. Id. ¶ 17(d).
[11]  As to HB, LLP and HB, Inc., its general partner, the Complaint does not implicate them in the defrauding of Captec or the alleged machinations which followed.
[12]  Although the corporate Defendants are fictitious entitles and therefore, possess no independent knowledge, they are charged with what their fiduciaries know. See 15 P.S. § 512 (stating that the individual officers are fiduciaries of the corporations they control); See Romy v. Burke, 2005 WL 280861 *2 (Pa. Com.Pl.) (fiduciaries are agents of their corporation); Kinney v. Sun Oil Co., 437 Pa. 80, 90, 262 A.2d 128, 133 (Pa.1970) (explaining that knowledge of a corporate agent may be imputed to the corporation).
[13]  Plaintiffs have even admitted as much on a prior occasion. See Plaintiff's Brief Concerning Characterization of Core Versus Non-Core Claims, at 10. At that time, they also characterized the count as more in the nature of a remedy than a cause of action. Id.
[14]  As to Count XV, this argument is refined somewhat: it is maintained that because there are no allegation implicating either Sant Properties, K & P, HB, Inc., or. HB, the corporate structures of those entities should not be disregarded. Defendants' Brief, 56.
[15]  Defendants do not assert as to this count or counts X or XV that an alter ego claim is not pleaded as to Mr. Bagga.
[16]  Defendant World Apparel is not mentioned in this regard.
[17]  While the Complaint alleges that Ravinder Chawla told Pratpal Bagga that World Apparel would be unable to repay the money which American Merchandise had given it, that is only a representation. Complaint ¶ 80. The Complaint states elsewhere that such representation was false as that money was merely diverted and not lost in a bad investment. Id. ¶ 82.
[18]  And here again, the claim of civil conspiracy against Messrs. Chawla fails for insufficiency. There is simply no allegation, in the count which put them on notice that they are charged with conspiracy to abuse the corporate form.
[19]  2002 WL 32341776 *3 (E.D.Pa.)
[20]  431 Pa. 240, 245, 244 A.2d 779, 781-82 (Pa.1968)
[21]  Defendants do not argue here that the fraud count is deficient for failure to meet the heightened pleading standard of F.R.C.P. 9(b) (made applicable by B.R. 7009).
[22]  Made applicable by B.R. 7008(a).
[23]  The Court is aware of the split of authority on this point. See In re Lexington Healthcare Group, Inc., 339 B.R. 570, 576 (Bankr.D.Del. 2006) (not requiring pleading of actual creditor and noting split)
[24]  Defendants maintain that the Count fails to state a claim because it references transfers made by non-debtors. Elsewhere, they go on to argue, it contradicts itself as to which of the Debtor made certain transfers. Defendants' Brief, 44-45. Merely because the complaint references transfers made by non-debtors does not mean that those transfers made by the Debtor are not avoidable. The applicable rule of pleading provides that "[w]hen two or more statements are made in the alternative and one of them if made independently would be sufficient, the pleading is not made insufficient by the insufficiency of one or more of the alternative statements." F.R.C.P. 8(e)(2). Their objection that at one point it is alleged that Bagga Enterprises and Jamuna Real Estate made the fraudulent transfers, while just four paragraphs later, it is United Management who is supposed to have made them is equally unpersuasive. The same rule of pleadings provides that "a party may also state as many separate claims or defenses as the party has regardless of consistency . . ." Id. (emphasis added)
[25]  The statute provides that "[i]f applicable nonbankruptcy law, an order entered in a nonbankruptcy proceeding, or an agreement fixes a period within which the debtor may commence an action, and such period has not expired before the date of the filing of the petition, the trustee may commence such action only before the later of 

(1) the end of such period, including any suspension of such period occurring on or after the commencement of the case; or
(2) two years after the order for relief." 11 U.S.C. § 108(a)
[26]  In re Docteroff, 133 F.3d 210 (3d Cir.1997).
[27]  Voest-Alpine Trading USA Corp. v. Vantage Steel Corp., 919 F.2d 206 (3d Cir.1990)
[28]  Pennsylvania law was applicable because the Debtor was a Pennsylvania corporation. 335 B.R. at 545.
[29]  While a bankruptcy court is not bound to follow a decision of single district court judge, Threadgill v. Armstrong World Industries, Inc., 928 F.2d 1366, 1370 (3d Cir.1991) (holding that there is no "law of the district"), such a decision is entitled to deference by this Court. See In re Morningstar Enterprises, Inc., 128 B.R. 102, 106 (Bankr.E.D.Pa.1991). Moreover, this ruling is consistent with that issued by Bankruptcy Judge Fox of this District. See Total Containment, supra, 335 B.R. at 611 (holding that plaintiff stated a cause of action for aiding and abetting a breach of fiduciary duty at least for purposes of surviving a motion to dismiss)
