
7 Mich. App. 157 (1967)
151 N.W.2d 184
PEOPLE
v.
BAILEY.
Docket No. 2,462.
Michigan Court of Appeals.
Decided June 13, 1967.
Frank J. Kelley, Attorney General, Robert A. Derengoski, Solicitor General, George N. Parris, Prosecuting Attorney, Thaddeus F. Hamera, Chief Appellate Lawyer, and Max D. McCullough, Assistant Prosecuting Attorney, for the people.
Robert L. Coburn, for defendant.
MILLER, J.
This 19-year-old first felony offender, with an extensive juvenile record and no one in the position of parent, was charged with breaking and entering a store building with intent to commit a felony therein, to-wit, larceny, contrary to CL 1948, § 750.110, as amended by PA 1964, No 133 (Stat Ann 1965 Cum Supp § 28.305). He appeared in circuit court without an attorney after spending 21 days in the county jail for failure to post $2,000 bond. He was advised of his constitutional rights in the colloquy which follows:
"The Court. You understand you are charged with breaking and entering a building intending to steal something.
"Defendant. Yes.
"The Court. Do you understand that? You have a right to have a trial by a jury. You have a right to have your attorney represent you. In the event you are unable to procure an attorney financially, and you in your case being the age you are, your relatives, those responsible for you, and request is *159 made the court will consider appointing an attorney to represent you. This offense carries a penalty up to as much as 10 years in the State prison.
"Do you have any questions you want to ask?
"Defendant. Not really. I already pled guilty to the charge.
"The Court. Sorry.
"Defendant. I have already pled guilty to the charge.
"The Court. Not up here you haven't.
"Defendant. I see.
"The Court. You haven't up here. My question right now is this: Do you have any questions you want to ask me?
"Defendant. No, sir.
"The Court. How do you plead to this?
"Defendant. Guilty. * * *
"The Court. Has anybody promised you I am going to go easier on you, on sentence, than I would if you had a trial?
"Defendant. No, sir."
On October 6, 1965 defendant was sentenced for a period of not less than 2 years nor more than 10. The calendar entries show receipt October 11, 1965 of a letter dated October 8 from the defendant stating, "As I feel that this was too harsh a punishment for my crime I would like to appeal this case." Counsel was promptly appointed.
The sole question presented by appellant is whether an indigent defendant should be advised at the arraignment not only of his right to an attorney for trial, but specifically of his right to advice concerning his election to plead guilty or not guilty.
The defendant contends that he understood from the colloquy quoted above that he had a right to an attorney only if he wanted a trial. The issue is whether there is "substantial compliance" with GCR 1963, 785.3(1) and the constitutional requirements of the Fourteenth Amendment. People v. Winegar *160 (1966), 4 Mich App 547. Otherwise stated, did the defendant knowingly and intelligently waive counsel and plead guilty? In re Palmer (1963), 371 Mich 656, 660. In Carnley v. Cochran (1963), 369 US 506, 516 (82 S Ct 884, 8 L ed 2d 70), the court said:
"The record must show, or there must be an allegation and evidence which show, that an accused was offered counsel but intelligently and understandingly rejected the offer. Anything less is not waiver."
While the court did advise defendant of the right to counsel, this was qualified by the expression "will consider." People v. Cairns (1966), 4 Mich App 633, 640. In this case the defendant was indigent and this fact was indicated to the court at that point by defendant's failure to post bond for 21 days. The court did ask defendant twice if he had any questions, but to a 19-year-old this may not have been understood as his opportunity to request counsel. People v. Atkins (1966), 2 Mich App 199. People v. Hilko (1966), 5 Mich App 166, 168. His experiences in juvenile court where informality is stressed would not ordinarily prepare him for this situation. In any event, it is clear from the record that the defendant was confused and needed counsel to advise him of the consequences of the action taken "below" and the pleas available in circuit court. He indicated this to the court by stating, "Not really. I already pled guilty to the charge." This point was not clarified by the circuit judge nor did he appoint counsel to do so.
The plea is vacated and the matter remanded for further proceedings.
QUINN, P.J., and McGREGOR, J., concurred.
