                                                                       F I L E D
                                                                 United States Court of Appeals
                                                                         Tenth Circuit
                                     PUBLISH
                                                                        OCT 27 1998
                  UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
                                                                     PATRICK FISHER
                                                                             Clerk
                               TENTH CIRCUIT



 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

             Plaintiff - Appellee,

       v.                                              No. 97-1248

 TONY LENARD CARVER,

             Defendant - Appellant.


        APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
                FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLORADO
                     (D. Ct. No. 96-CR-460-D)


Craig B. Shaffer, Dufford & Brown, P.C., Denver, Colorado, appearing for
Appellant.

John M. Hutchins, Assistant United States Attorney (Henry L. Solano, United
States Attorney, and Stephanie Podolak, Assistant United States Attorney, with
him on the brief), District of Colorado, Denver, Colorado, appearing for Appellee.


Before TACHA, HENRY, and MURPHY, Circuit Judges.


TACHA, Circuit Judge.


      This appeal is from an order of the district court sentencing defendant Tony

Lenard Carver to 151 months imprisonment following a plea of guilty to a one-
count information charging him with possession with intent to distribute cocaine

base in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1) and (b)(1)(C). Defendant raises three

issues on appeal. First, he asserts that he did not voluntarily and knowingly enter

his agreement to plead guilty because neither the trial court nor defense counsel

advised him of the direct consequences of his plea. Second, he alleges that the

trial counsel who represented him during the plea negotiations, guilty plea, and

sentencing was ineffective. Lastly, defendant claims that the trial court

improperly participated in plea negotiations during the sentencing hearing in

violation of Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 11(e). We exercise jurisdiction

pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1291 and 18 U.S.C. § 3742 and affirm.

      The original indictment charged defendant with several counts relating to

the distribution of crack cocaine. Defendant admits that he was on state probation

at the time these offenses were committed. After plea negotiations, the defendant

pled guilty to a one-count information charging him with intent to distribute crack

cocaine. Pursuant to the terms of the plea agreement, the United States moved to

dismiss the initial indictment. During a change of plea proceeding on February

11, 1997, the defendant acknowledged that he had discussed the operation of the

sentencing guidelines with his counsel and understood that the sentence proposed

in his plea agreement was 151 months. The trial court accepted defendant’s plea

“on a provisional basis” and deferred, until the time of sentencing, the ultimate


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acceptance of defendant’s guilty plea. At the sentencing hearing on June 20,

1997, defendant expressed concerns about the presentence investigation report

and his plea agreement. At least some of the defendant’s statements at that

hearing suggest uncertainty as to whether he wished to go forward with the guilty

plea and sentencing. The district court thoroughly questioned defendant about his

intentions and wishes regarding the plea agreement. Also, as the sentencing

record makes clear, the district court knew of the defendant’s concerns about the

presentence investigation report and the sentence. It actively informed the

defendant about the plea agreement, the alternative possibility of going to trial,

and the possible sentences that might result from that choice.

      On appeal, defendant argues that he entered his plea involuntarily because

he was not properly informed of its direct consequences. In particular, defendant

argues that the district court judge violated Rule 11 by failing to explicitly inform

him during sentencing that, according to § 5G1.3 of the United States Sentencing

Guidelines, his federal and state sentences would run consecutively. 1 We


      1
        It is, however, not clear from the record that § 5G1.3 stripped the district
court of discretion to impose a concurrent federal sentence in this case.
Application Note 6 to § 5G1.3 states:

      If the defendant was on . . . state probation . . . at the time of the
      instant offense, and has had such probation . . . revoked, the sentence
      from the instant offense should be imposed to run consecutively to
      the term imposed for the violation of probation . . . in order to
      provide an incremental penalty for the violation of probation . . . .

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disagree. Defendant made some statements suggesting that he might have thought

his federal sentence would be served first or that there was a possibility of

concurrent rather than consecutive sentencing. However, these same statements,

and others in the record, show that the defendant was at least aware of the

possibility of receiving a consecutive sentence. Under these circumstances, a

district court has no duty to inform the defendant of the possibility of consecutive

sentences -- even if mandated by the Guidelines. See Williams v. United States,

500 F.2d 42, 44 (10th Cir. 1974); see also United States v. Ferguson, 918 F.2d

627, 630 (6th Cir. 1990) (finding that although “a guilty plea must be voluntarily




Plaintiff admits and the presentencing report states that he was on probation for a
prior state drug conviction, for which he received an eight-year suspended
sentence, at the time the federal offenses were committed. However, the record
does not clearly reflect how this could be true, given that defendant pled guilty to
and was sentenced for the state offense some nine months after the federal
offenses were committed. Furthermore, the record indicates that, at the time the
defendant pled guilty to and was sentenced for his federal offense, his state
probation had not yet been revoked. Lastly, even if defendant clearly fell within
the parameters of Application Note 6, it is still unclear whether the district court
was without discretion to impose a concurrent sentence. Although other circuits
have held that Application Note 6 is mandatory rather than discretionary, see,
e.g., United States v. Alexander, 100 F.3d 24, 26-27 (5th Cir. 1996); United
States v. McCarthy, 77 F.3d 522, 539 (1st Cir. 1996); United States v. Bernard, 48
F.3d 427, 431 (9th Cir. 1995), this court has not yet addressed the issue. For
these reasons, defendant’s assertion that the district court was wholly without
discretion to impose a concurrent sentence in this case must be taken with some
skepticism. However, because our holding in this case would not change
regardless of whether the court had discretion, we need not resolve these
problems here.


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entered with a full understanding of the direct consequences of the plea[,] . . .

whether a federal sentence runs consecutive to or concurrent with a state sentence

is not considered a direct consequence of the plea”). But see United States v.

Neely, 38 F.3d 458, 461 (9th Cir. 1993) (holding that when a district court has no

power to grant a concurrent sentence, it has a duty under Rule 11 to inform the

defendant that his federal sentence would run consecutive to his state sentence).

Thus, the district court’s failure to explicitly inform defendant that his state and

federal sentences would run consecutively does not render the plea agreement

involuntary. Accordingly, we find that the district court satisfied the

requirements of Rule 11 and that the defendant entered the plea agreement

knowingly and voluntarily.

      Defendant further argues that his counsel during the course of the plea

negotiations, plea agreement, and sentencing was ineffective. Except in those

rare instances where an ineffective assistance of counsel claim is fully developed

in the record, such claims should be asserted in a motion pursuant to 28 U.S.C.

§ 2255 and not on direct appeal. See United States v. Galloway, 56 F.3d 1239,

1242 (10th Cir. 1995) (en banc). In this case, the record does not fully develop

defendant’s claim because it does not sufficiently describe the advice given by

defendant’s counsel concerning the plea decision. A post-conviction hearing

would be needed to ferret out this information. We therefore decline to address


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defendant’s allegations of ineffective assistance of counsel.

      Finally, defendant argues that the district court participated in plea

discussions during the sentencing hearing in violation of Federal Rule of Criminal

Procedure 11(e). We disagree. The record indicates that after entering a

conditional guilty plea in a prior proceeding, the defendant appeared for the

sentencing hearing and, at that time, made contradictory statements throughout

the hearing with respect to whether he wished to go forward with sentencing on

the basis of the plea agreement. Defendant further entered a number of objections

with regard to the presentence investigation report and its calculation of

defendant’s criminal history. The defendant could, at best, be described as

appearing indecisive at the sentencing hearing. During the lengthy and

contradictory interchange that ensued, the district court asked defendant a number

of questions and pressed him with respect to his wishes regarding his plea. The

pattern of the district court’s questioning was undoubtedly influenced by the

defendant’s own vacillation. In any event, although the district court’s comments

certainly evidenced some frustration, they did not rise to the level of involvement

that constitutes a violation of Rule 11(e).

      While it is true that Rule 11(e) prevents a judge from shaping the terms of a

plea bargain or pressuring a criminal defendant to settle his case, these stringent

prohibitions of Rule 11(e) do not apply once “the parties ha[ve] concluded their


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agreement, and the prosecutor ha[s] laid it out in open court,” even if the

agreement is not formal and binding. United States v. Frank, 36 F.3d 898, 902-03

(9th Cir. 1994). In other words, once the parties have “hammered out” the details

of their agreement, Rule 11(e) does not prevent the sentencing judge from

questioning the defendant regarding the terms, consequences, and acceptance of

the plea agreement or from providing the defendant with information relating to

these matters. See Fed. R. Crim. P. 11(e)(1) advisory committee’s note (1974

amend.) (“This amendment makes clear that the judge should not participate in

plea discussions leading to a plea agreement. It is contemplated that the judge

may participate in such discussions as may occur when the plea agreement is

disclosed in open court.”); United States v. Adams, 634 F.2d 830, 835 (5th Cir.

1981) (“Rule 11 contemplates an active role for the trial judge once the plea

agreement is reached by the parties and disclosed in open court . . . .”),

superseded on other grounds, 138 F.3d 1359 (11th Cir. 1998); cf. Frank, 36 F.3d

at 903. Indeed, such inquiries are required by other provisions of Rule 11. See

Fed. R. Crim. P. 11(c), (d), (f).

      The record reveals that defendant entered into a plea agreement and

changed his plea to guilty well before his problematic interchange with the

district court judge. Thus, the district court judge did not inappropriately involve

himself in the plea discussions in violation of Rule 11(e). Rather, the judge’s


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comments were prompted by an attempt to resolve the inconsistent positions taken

by the defendant during the sentencing hearing and were, if anything, related to

defendant’s consideration of whether or not to withdraw his already negotiated

plea agreement. The district court merely directed its comments towards

providing the defendant with information relating to that choice. Under these

circumstances, we find no violation of Rule 11(e) in the statements of the district

court.

         AFFIRMED.




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