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        IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
                 FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT   United States Court of Appeals
                                                                       Fifth Circuit

                                                                      FILED
                                  No. 17-30292                   November 16, 2018
                                                                   Lyle W. Cayce
                                                                        Clerk
JANE DOE I; JANE DOE II; JANE DOE III,

             Plaintiffs - Appellees

v.

JEFF LANDRY, Attorney General for the State of Louisiana,

             Intervenor - Appellant

JUANA MARINE-LOMBARD, in her official capacity as Commissioner,
Louisiana Office of Alcohol and Tobacco Control,

             Defendant - Appellant




                 Appeal from the United States District Court
                    for the Eastern District of Louisiana


                      ON PETITION FOR REHEARING
Before STEWART, Chief Judge, CLEMENT, and SOUTHWICK, Circuit
Judges.

LESLIE H. SOUTHWICK, Circuit Judge:
      No member of the panel nor judge in regular active service requested
that the court be polled on rehearing en banc. The petition for rehearing en
banc is therefore DENIED. See FED. R. APP. P. and 5th Cir. R. 35. Treating
the petition for rehearing en banc as a petition for panel rehearing, the petition
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is GRANTED. We withdraw our prior opinion, 905 F.3d 290, and substitute
the following.
      In 2016, Louisiana amended two statutes to require that entertainers on
premises licensed to serve alcohol and whose breasts or buttocks are exposed
to view be 21 years of age or older. Three erotic dancers who at the time were
aged 18, 19, and 20 filed a complaint against the state official responsible for
the Act’s enforcement, claiming the Act violated various provisions of the
United States and Louisiana Constitutions. The district court concluded that
the plaintiffs were likely to succeed on the merits of their claims that the Act
is unconstitutionally overbroad and vague.       It left other issues for later
resolution but issued a preliminary statewide injunction barring enforcement
of the Act. The State brought this interlocutory appeal. We conclude that on
this facial challenge, the Act is neither unconstitutionally overbroad nor vague.
Consequently, we VACATE the injunction.            We REMAND for further
proceedings consistent with our ruling.


                 FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
      This lawsuit involves Act No. 395 from the 2016 regular session of the
Louisiana legislature. The Act identically amended two Louisiana statutes
that regulate activities on premises licensed to serve alcohol, adding a
requirement that certain performers be at least 21 years old:
            Subject to the provisions of Subsection D of this Section,
      entertainers whose breasts or buttocks are exposed to view shall
      perform only upon a stage at least eighteen inches above the
      immediate floor level and removed at least three feet from the
      nearest patron and shall be twenty-one years of age or older.
LA. REV. STAT. §§ 26:90(E), 26:286(E) (2016) (emphasis added).         The only
significant difference between the two statutes is that Section 26:90 regulates
those who sell or serve typical alcoholic beverages, while Section 26:286

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regulates those who sell or serve beverages of low-alcoholic content. Compare
§ 26:90(A)(1)(a), with § 26:286(A)(1)(a). Even though the pre-2016 version of
Subsection E did not refer to age at all, the parties agree that erotic dancers
previously had to be at least 18 years old. See §§ 26:90(E), 26:286(E) (2010).
      We will give more detail later, but for now we simply point out that
neither before nor after the Act became effective were erotic dancers permitted
to be completely nude. That is because another statutory provision limits what
may be “exposed to view;” a dancer must at least be wearing, to use the terms
of this particular art, G-strings and pasties. See §§ 26:90(D)(3); 26:286(D)(3).
One of the issues in the case is how much covering is needed beyond that
minimum for performers who are under age 21.
      The Act became effective August 1, 2016. The Louisiana Office of Alcohol
and Tobacco Control (“ATC”) soon began enforcing the Act’s age requirement
throughout Louisiana, except in New Orleans. It planned to begin enforcing
the age requirement there on October 1, 2016.
      In September 2016, three female erotic dancers who were at least 18
years old but not yet 21 filed a complaint in the United States District Court
for the Eastern District of Louisiana against Juana Marine-Lombard in her
official capacity as Commissioner of the ATC. The plaintiffs sought injunctive
and declaratory relief under 42 U.S.C. §§ 1983 and 1988, claiming that the Act
facially violated the First and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States
Constitution and Article I, Sections 2, 3, and 7 of the Louisiana Constitution.
      Plaintiff Jane Doe I was 20 years old when the complaint was filed. She
is a resident of New Orleans and is employed as an erotic dancer in that city.
Jane Doe I alleged she began dancing at age 18, “highly values the scheduling
control her vocation allows her, and . . . enjoys expressing herself through
dancing.”   In addition, she contended that as an erotic dancer, she earns
enough money to meet her financial obligations and to save for her retirement,
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which she was unable to do prior to working as an erotic dancer. Jane Doe I
asserted that in October 2016, when the Act was to be enforced in New Orleans,
she would no longer be permitted to be employed as an erotic dancer.
      Jane Doe II was 18 years old when the complaint was filed. She is a
resident of Baton Rouge and a student at Louisiana State University. She
claimed to be entirely independent, as both of her parents died of cancer. Jane
Doe II began working as an erotic dancer in June 2016 “in order to finance her
college education and living expenses.” She desired “to save enough money
over the summer through her work as a dancer so that at the start of the school
semester, she could concentrate fully on her studies.”
      Jane Doe II stopped performing as an erotic dancer as of the Act’s
effective date.   She began working as a “shot girl,” who is a server that
circulates throughout the establishment and offers patrons shots of alcohol for
purchase. She contended that her income decreased by more than 50 percent
when she stopped being a dancer and began working as a shot girl. Jane Doe
II also argued that because of the Act she lost the ability to express herself
through erotic dance.
      Jane Doe III was 19 years old when the complaint was filed. She is a
resident of New Orleans and began working as an erotic dancer in September
2015. She was employed as an erotic dancer in Baton Rouge from January
2016 until the Act went into effect. Jane Doe III contended that on the date
the Act became effective in Louisiana, she was forced to stop working as an
erotic dancer and began working as a shot girl at the club where she formerly
danced. Her income also allegedly dropped by more than half.
      The plaintiffs moved for a preliminary injunction, requesting that the
district court enjoin Commissioner Marine-Lombard from enforcing the Act.
On September 30, 2016, the district court entered a temporary restraining


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order prohibiting Commissioner Marine-Lombard from enforcing the Act
anywhere within the state of Louisiana.
      On November 3, 2016, Jeff Landry intervened in the lawsuit in his
official capacity as Attorney General for the state of Louisiana. Commissioner
Marine-Lombard and Attorney General Landry (collectively, “the State”) then
filed separate responses to the plaintiffs’ motion for preliminary injunction.
The district court treated the separate responses as a single opposition because
they addressed separate arguments that the plaintiffs had asserted in their
motion.
      The district court determined that Act 395 was overbroad and vague
under the federal Constitution. The remainder of the plaintiffs’ claims were
left for later resolution. The court enjoined the enforcement of the Act. The
State timely brought an interlocutory appeal, citing 28 U.S.C. § 1292(a)(1),
which allows appeals from the grant of injunctions. The district court later
instructed its clerk to stay and administratively close the case pending a
resolution of the appeal.


                                 DISCUSSION
      We review a district court’s decision to grant a preliminary injunction for
abuse of discretion, but we review its findings of fact for clear error and its
conclusions of law de novo. Jefferson Cmty. Health Care Ctrs, Inc. v. Jefferson
Par. Gov’t, 849 F.3d 615, 624 (5th Cir. 2017). Plaintiffs are entitled to a
preliminary injunction if they show (1) a substantial likelihood that they will
prevail on the merits of their claims, (2) a substantial threat that they will
suffer an irreparable injury if the injunction is not granted, (3) their threatened
injury outweighs the threatened harm to the State, and (4) the public interest
will not be disserved if the preliminary injunction is granted. Lake Charles
Diesel, Inc. v. Gen. Motors Corp., 328 F.3d 192, 195–96 (5th Cir. 2003).
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      This case comes to us with a few uncontested premises. The parties do
not dispute that “nude dancing is not without its First Amendment protections
from official regulation.” Schad v. Borough of Mount Ephraim, 452 U.S. 61, 66
(1981).   “[N]ude dancing of the type at issue here is expressive conduct,
although . . . it falls only within the outer ambit of the First Amendment’s
protection.” City of Erie v. Pap’s A.M., 529 U.S. 277, 289 (2000) (plurality
opinion). It is also uncontested that, prior to the Act, individuals age 18-20
could perform as entertainers with their breasts or buttocks exposed to view at
alcohol-licensed establishments in Louisiana. Finally, it is undisputed that in
Louisiana some sexually-oriented businesses are licensed to serve alcohol and
others are not; the rules we are discussing apply to those serving alcohol.
      A State has an “undeniably important” interest in combating the
harmful secondary effects associated with nude dancing.             Id. at 296.
Combining alcohol and erotic dancing has been found to be a combustible mix.
Illusions-Dallas Private Club, Inc. v. Steen, 482 F.3d 299, 313 (5th Cir. 2007).
“As weighty as this concern is, however, it cannot justify legislation that would
otherwise fail to meet constitutional standards for definiteness and clarity.”
See Kolender v. Lawson, 461 U.S. 352, 361 (1983).
      The disputes are these. The State contends that the plaintiffs have not
shown a substantial likelihood of success on the merits of their overbreadth
claim because the district court failed to find real and substantial overbreadth
and failed to consider the State’s limiting construction. The State further
argues that the plaintiffs cannot show a substantial likelihood of success on
their vagueness claim because no plaintiff has standing to bring a facial
vagueness challenge, and because the Act’s text plainly reveals what conduct
is prohibited by the Act. The plaintiffs assert that strict scrutiny should apply
and that the Act should be enjoined on free expression or equal protection
grounds because it is vague and overbroad.
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      The first issue we discuss, because it affects much of what follows, is
whether strict or intermediate scrutiny applies to these claims.


      I. Level of scrutiny
      The district court determined that the Act was not a content-based
restriction. Accordingly, it applied intermediate scrutiny as opposed to the
almost certainly invalidating strict scrutiny. We analyze whether that was
correct.
      “The statute’s predominant purpose determines the level of scrutiny.”
Illusions-Dallas Private Club, Inc., 482 F.3d at 308. Intermediate scrutiny is
“routinely” applied to regulation of alcohol at sexually-oriented businesses. Id.
at 307. The district court determined that the predominant purpose of the Act
was similar to that of other “alcohol regulations aimed at combating the
harmful secondary effects of nude dancing.”        The Act had no legislative
preamble to explain its purpose, but such a preamble or legislative history is
not required to support a content-neutral purpose. See id. at 310. The district
court relied on our holding in Illusions-Dallas that a predominant purpose for
legislation regulating alcohol can properly be identified by the statute’s text
and its placement within a code of statutes regulating alcohol. See id. at 308.
      Another “routine” and identical holding applicable to similar legislation
was in Baby Dolls Topless Saloons, Inc. v. City of Dallas, 295 F.3d 471, 484–85
(5th Cir. 2002). We held there that the burden on expression is incidental to
the content-neutral exercise of authority to regulate sexually oriented
businesses. Id.
      The plaintiffs quote statements from two state legislators to support
their view that this was a content-based restriction based on a view of morally
acceptable conduct. The views of individual legislators as to their special
interest in a legislative enactment, however, do not override our clear caselaw
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such as Illusion-Dallas that regulations such as this are generally not content
based and receive intermediate scrutiny. That is the scrutiny we apply.


      II. Narrow tailoring/facial overbreadth
       We need to be careful with terms. A statute regulating conduct with
incidental effects on speech can be a reasonable restriction if, among other
things, it is narrowly tailored to serve substantial governmental interests. Hill
v. Colorado, 530 U.S. 703, 725–26 (2000).        Such caselaw applies to free-
expression claims “when ‘speech’ and ‘nonspeech’ elements are combined in the
same course of conduct, [and] a sufficiently important governmental interest
in regulating the nonspeech element can justify incidental limitations on First
Amendment freedoms.” United States v. O’Brien, 391 U.S. 367, 376 (1968).
These requirements are met “so long as the neutral regulation promotes a
substantial government interest that would be achieved less effectively absent
the regulation.” United States v. Albertini, 472 U.S. 675, 689 (1985).
      A different concept is this: “the overbreadth doctrine enables litigants ‘to
challenge a statute not because their own rights of free expression are violated,
but because of a judicial prediction or assumption that the statute’s very
existence may cause others not before the court to refrain from constitutionally
protected speech or expression.’” Hill, 530 U.S. at 731–32 (quoting Broadrick
v. Oklahoma, 413 U.S. 601, 612 (1973)). Further, “particularly where conduct
and not merely speech is involved, we believe that the overbreadth of a statute
must not only be real, but substantial as well, judged in relation to the statute’s
plainly legitimate sweep.” Broadrick, 413 U.S. at 615. Obviously, both areas
of First Amendment law are concerned with statutes that regulate speech more
than necessary. The concepts are distinct, though.
      The district court here ruled that the Act failed the fourth factor of a
time, place, and manner precedent. See O’Brien, 391 U.S. at 377. We file
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O’Brien under that category because the Supreme Court itself did, describing
the four-factor test announced in O’Brien as “little, if any, different from the
standard applied to time, place, or manner restrictions.” Clark v. Cmty. for
Creative Non-Violence, 468 U.S. 288, 298 (1984). The O’Brien test sustains a
statute’s validity:
      [1] if it is within the constitutional power of the Government; [2] if
      it furthers an important or substantial governmental interest;
      [3] if the governmental interest is unrelated to the suppression of
      free expression; and [4] if the incidental restriction on alleged First
      Amendment freedoms is no greater than is essential to the
      furtherance of that interest.
O’Brien, 391 U.S. at 377. It was the fourth factor — does a law governing
conduct have an incidental restriction on speech that is greater than necessary
— that the district court here held was not satisfied. Its analysis of that factor
was expressed as “overbreadth.” Labeling wider-than-necessary tailoring as
overbreadth is grammatically reasonable but doctrinally conflating. It risks
merging O’Brien with the different doctrine of overbreadth. To be clear, we
find no error in the terminology per se, but we will be alert here to the
application of the appropriate caselaw.
      A common use of the term “overbreadth” in First Amendment analysis
allows plaintiffs whose rights are not violated to show that “a ‘substantial
number’ of [the law’s] applications [to other individuals] are unconstitutional,
‘judged in relation to the statute’s plainly legitimate sweep.’” Washington
State Grange v. Washington State Republican Party, 552 U.S. 442, 449 n.6
(2008) (quoting New York v. Ferber, 458 U.S. 747, 769–71 (1982)). As we have
explained, “the rationale of the overbreadth doctrine is to protect the
expressive rights of third parties who are not before the court.” United States
v. Hicks, 980 F.2d 963, 969 (5th Cir. 1992) (emphasis omitted).
      We start with a discussion of this special version of the standards for
judging time, place, and manner restrictions. The district court stated that the
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parties disagreed as to whether O’Brien should be applied specifically or
whether a more relevant test was a hybrid 1 employed in Illusions-Dallas, 482
F.3d at 311, in which the parties agreed to a mix of factors. The district court
applied O’Brien, concluding the differences between the tests did not affect the
outcome.     On appeal, plaintiffs accept O’Brien while the State makes no
substantial objection. We therefore apply it too.


              A. O’Brien factors one and two
       The plaintiffs accept that the Act was within the constitutional authority
of the state government. That concession means the first of the O’Brien factors
is satisfied, and we therefore need not discuss it.
       As to the governmental interest, the district court held that the Act is
intended to regulate the secondary effects of erotic dancing, which is a
substantial governmental interest. Harmful secondary effects can include the
“impacts on public health, safety, and welfare.” Pap’s A.M., 529 U.S. at 291.
The evidentiary burden to support the governmental interest is light.
Illusions-Dallas, 482 F.3d at 313. The State has the burden of providing
evidence that it “reasonably believed to be relevant” to the question of
secondary effects. Id. (quoting City of Los Angeles v. Alameda Books, Inc., 535
U.S. 425, 442 (2002) (plurality opinion)). It must show a connection between
the actions being regulated — erotic dancing by 18, 19, and 20-year-olds and
alcohol consumption — and the claimed secondary effects.



       1 The principal difference is that the hybrid test looks to whether the regulation would
completely eliminate adult entertainment: “(1) the State regulated pursuant to a legitimate
governmental power; (2) the regulation does not completely prohibit adult entertainment; (3)
the regulation is aimed not at the suppression of expression, but rather at combating negative
secondary effects; and (4) the regulation is designed to serve a substantial governmental
interest, is narrowly tailored, and reasonable alternative avenues of communication remain
available, or, alternatively, the regulation furthers an important or substantial governmental
interest.” Illusions-Dallas, 482 F.3d at 311.
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      The principal secondary effects asserted by the State are human
trafficking and prostitution.    Also discussed are substance abuse by, and
assaults on, the dancers.     The State provided a report from a statewide
investigation conducted by the state Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms,
with little isolation of the 18-20-year-old age group in its study. The report did
describe one individual who went from being a 19-year-old erotic dancer, to
being a prostitute, to being killed by her pimp. It also provided evidence
compiled by the City of New Orleans on secondary effects of erotic dancing.
      Though there is significant dispute whether the Louisiana legislature
considered any of this information, we have allowed such regulations to be
justified by evidence that may not have been presented to the enacting officials
and was only produced at the time of trial. See J & B Entm’t, Inc. v. City of
Jackson, 152 F.3d 362, 371–72 (5th Cir. 1998). The plaintiffs argue that this
misreads J & B, but we stated in that case that “Justice Souter’s concurrence
in Barnes . . . allows a local government to justify a challenged ordinance based
on evidence developed either prior to enactment or adduced at trial.” Id. at
372 (citing Barnes v. Glen Theatre, Inc., 501 U.S. 560, 582 (1991) (Souter, J.,
concurring)).
      We agree with the district court that the State upheld its obligation to
introduce some evidence that it “reasonably believed to be relevant” to
secondary effects. See Illusions-Dallas, 482 F.3d at 313. The Act must also
further that governmental interest of reducing human trafficking. The State
need not demonstrate through empirical data, though, that its regulation will
reduce such trafficking. “Such a requirement would go too far in undermining
[the] settled position that municipalities must be given a reasonable
opportunity to experiment with solutions to address the secondary effects of
protected speech.” Baby Dolls, 295 F.3d at 481 (alteration in original) (quoting
Alameda Books, Inc., 535 U.S. at 439). The district court relied on the failure
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of the plaintiffs to provide “actual and convincing evidence” that the enactment
will not have any positive effect on the identified harms. Our precedent,
though, requires a reasonable belief that there is a link between the regulation
and the curbing of the identified secondary effects. Id. Thus, we proceed
beyond the absence of evidence from the plaintiffs. We find that the evidence
presented by the state to demonstrate the existence of secondary effects is also
sufficient to show a reasonable belief that there is a link between the Act and
curbing the identified secondary effects of human trafficking and prostitution.


            B. O’Brien factor three
      The third O’Brien factor requires that the regulation be unrelated to the
suppression of free speech or expression. The district court did not analyze
that factor separately. Instead it relied on its earlier analysis, which we also
have discussed, and accepted that intermediate scrutiny applied because the
Act was content-neutral. The plaintiffs make a brief argument to the contrary
on appeal, but we find no error.


            C. O’Brien factor four
      We now come to the factor that the district court held the Act failed,
namely, that “the incidental restriction on alleged First Amendment freedoms
[be] no greater than is essential to the furtherance of that interest.” O’Brien,
391 U.S. at 377. The district court held the Act was “overbroad” because it
might preclude individuals eighteen to twenty-years-old “from participating in
theater or similar artistic productions if such participation entails nudity.” It
stated that “there is little doubt that Act No. 395 sweeps up a fair amount of
constitutionally protected speech.”
      The O’Brien phrase “no greater than necessary” hints of the different and
difficult standard of “least restrictive means,” but the Supreme Court has made
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clear the two are not equivalent: “Lest any confusion on the point remain, we
reaffirm today that a regulation of the time, place, or manner of protected
speech must be narrowly tailored to serve the government’s legitimate,
content-neutral interests but that it need not be the least restrictive or least
intrusive means of doing so.” Ward v. Rock Against Racism, 491 U.S. 781, 798
(1989). The Supreme Court went further in describing the needed focus:
      Rather, the requirement of narrow tailoring is satisfied “so long as
      the . . . regulation promotes a substantial government interest that
      would be achieved less effectively absent the regulation.” . . . So
      long as the means chosen are not substantially broader than
      necessary to achieve the government’s interest, however, the
      regulation will not be invalid simply because a court concludes that
      the government’s interest could be adequately served by some less-
      speech-restrictive alternative.
Id. at 799–800 (first ellipsis in original) (quoting Albertini, 472 U.S. at 689).
We apply to O’Brien this guidance about what “no greater than necessary”
means for time, place, and manner legal standards because, as we stated
above, the Court has held that O’Brien is a variant of those standards. See
Community for Creative Non-Violence, 468 U.S. at 298. 2
      At times this court has separately discussed both the O’Brien four-factor
test and the standard for overbreadth when analyzing a regulation. E.g., Hang
On, Inc. v. City of Arlington, 65 F.3d 1248, 1254–55 (5th Cir. 1995). We rejected
the argument that a ban on patrons touching nude dancers (which rarely would
invoke a patron’s speech rights) was overbroad, in part because the “First
Amendment ‘does not guarantee the right to [engage in protected expression]


      2   An insightful summary of the different considerations for the fourth factor
articulated in Rock Against Racism and in other caselaw is this:
       When the government could adopt a narrower regulation that would
       significantly reduce the negative impact on speech without substantially
       interfering with its legislative goals, the government should be forced to adopt
       the narrower regulation.
1 Smolla & Nimmer on Freedom of Speech § 9:17 (2018).
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at all times and places or in any manner that may be desired.’” Id. at 1254
(inserted phrase in original) (quoting Heffron v. Int’l Soc’y for Krishna
Consciousness, Inc., 452 U.S. 640, 647 (1981)). “[C]ontent-neutral regulations
of time, place, or manner are permissible where the regulations satisfy the
four-part test announced in [O’Brien].” Id. (emphasis omitted). This suggests
that satisfying O’Brien, when that is the appropriate test, will usually obviate
the need to analyze the different requirement that the “overbreadth of a
statute must not only be real, but substantial as well, judged in relation to the
statute’s plainly legitimate sweep.”     See Ferber, 458 U.S. at 770 (quoting
Broadrick, 413 U.S. at 615).
      We apply these principles to our facts.         The district court properly
applied O’Brien’s first three factors to the Act. The court also discussed the
relevant analysis of whether the government’s interest “would be achieved less
effectively absent the regulation.” See Albertini, 472 U.S. at 689. The district
court then shifted to a discussion of the substantial-overbreadth issue of
whether    “a   substantial    number    of   [a    statute’s]   applications   are
unconstitutional, judged in relation to the statute’s plainly legitimate sweep.”
United States v. Stevens, 559 U.S. 460, 473 (2010) (citation omitted). The court
continued by discussing Broadrick, Hicks, and other overbreadth cases.
      We are engaged in a de novo review, and we see no reason to question
the district court’s conclusions just because some of the caselaw may have been
from a slightly different doctrine.     Substantial overbreadth is certainly a
related concept to the fourth O’Brien factor. The district court’s primary basis
for finding the statute applied to far more expression than was essential is that
it did not exclude what the court called “mainstream” expressions of nudity.
These were performances at theaters, ballets, or other art venues not usually
associated with eroticism. That mainstream speech is what the district court
determined was improperly swept up within the reach of this Act.
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      Limiting constructions may be considered if the regulation “is ‘readily
susceptible’ to such a construction.” Stevens, 559 U.S. at 481 (quoting Reno v.
Am. Civil Liberties Union, 521 U.S. 844, 884 (1997)). The State presented to
the district court an affidavit from Commissioner Marine-Lombard who stated
that the Act “does not apply to venues such as theatres, ballets, or other
mainstream performance arts venues.” The court refused to consider this
narrowing construction because Commissioner Marine-Lombard “will not
always be the ATC commissioner and . . . it is not the Court’s role to rely on
the interpretation of an enforcement agency when determining whether a
statute is constitutional.”
      We disagree with the district court’s assessment that the State’s
narrowing construction should be rejected. “Administrative interpretation and
implementation of a regulation are . . . highly relevant to our analysis, for ‘[i]n
evaluating a facial challenge to a state law, a federal court must . . . consider
any limiting construction that a state court or enforcement agency has
proffered.’”   Rock Against Racism, 491 U.S. at 795–96 (second and third
alterations in original) (quoting Village of Hoffman Estates v. The Flipside,
Hoffman Estates, Inc., 455 U.S. 489, 494 n.5 (1982)). When the state official
charged with implementing a statute has provided an interpretation of how to
enforce it, we will defer unless that explanation is inconsistent with the
statutory language. Voting for Am., Inc. v. Steen, 732 F.3d 382, 387 (5th Cir.
2013). Such officials often, perhaps always, have temporary tenure in office,
but that has not been a reason courts have employed to ignore interpretive
limits they state.
      In addition, there is no suggestion in this record that the legislature was
seeking to affect dancers other than those at establishments in which erotic
dancing was the norm, or that the legislature specifically intended to cover
those at traditional theater and ballet. Nor is there evidence that the Act has
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been applied to such performances.             The limiting construction is readily
applicable to the Act. The remaining reach of the Act does not constitute
“overbreadth” that is both “real, but substantial as well, judged in relation to
the statute’s plainly legitimate sweep.” See Broadrick, 413 U.S. at 615.
       To conclude, we focus specifically on the fourth O’Brien factor.                  We
restate that narrow tailoring exists when the “regulation promotes a
substantial government interest that would be achieved less effectively absent
the regulation.” See Albertini, 472 U.S. at 689. The government must show
“the remedy it has adopted does not ‘burden substantially more speech than is
necessary to further the government’s legitimate interests.’” Turner Broad.
Sys., Inc. v. FCC, 512 U.S. 622, 665 (1994) (quoting Rock Against Racism, 491
U.S. at 799). This burden has been carried. The State’s justification for the
challenged law is to “prevent[] harmful ‘secondary’ effects that are unrelated
to the suppression of expression,” namely, human trafficking and prostitution.
Pap’s A.M., 529 U.S. at 294. The State has shown that younger adults are
more vulnerable to recruitment by traffickers, and that these vulnerabilities
are exacerbated in alcohol-licensed clubs. The State has also demonstrated
that its regulation does not burden substantially more speech than is necessary
because it prohibits semi-nude dancing for 18-20-year-old individuals in
alcohol-licensed clubs only; they may still participate in expressive conduct in
non-alcohol-licensed establishments.
       Consequently, we conclude the district court erred in holding that the
Act was overbroad, either for the lack of narrow tailoring necessary under
O’Brien or for “substantial overbreadth” under such cases as Broadrick. 3



       3Among the other points the State makes is that “[a]n overbreadth challenge is not
appropriate if the [F]irst [A]mendment rights asserted by a party attacking a statute are
essentially coterminous with the expressive rights of third parties.” Hicks, 980 F.2d at 969.
The State also argues the Act has no “real” overbreadth and the plaintiffs have failed to
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      III.     Vagueness
               A. Plaintiffs’ standing
      Before proceeding to consider the merits of the vagueness claim, we
address questions related to standing. Jane Does II and III claim that the Act
is facially vague because they cannot discern from the Act how little they can
wear in order to be “shot girls.” In addressing that claim, the district court
noted that the Act did not govern the clothing requirements for shot girls —
Subsection B of Sections 26:90 and 26:286 did. On that basis, the court held
that Jane Does II and III lack standing to challenge the Act in some of its
applications. We discuss later some ambiguity in this section of the district
court’s decision.
      The other plaintiff, Jane Doe I, has remained employed as an erotic
dancer.      She believed she would no longer be able to continue with such
employment, though, when the ATC began enforcing the Act in New Orleans.
She, in conjunction with the other plaintiffs, claims that the Act is
“unconstitutionally vague because it fails to precisely define the phrase
‘breasts or buttocks are exposed.’” By failing to clarify what degree of exposure
of the breasts or buttocks is impermissible, they argue the Act provides “no
clear guidance to [them], other similarly-situated adults, adult entertainment
industry club owners, law enforcement, or [the State] as to how it should be
interpreted and applied in this regard.” The district court addressed that claim
by, as the State acknowledges, adopting the plaintiffs’ position.
      The question of standing posed here is whether any plaintiff can raise
the remaining facial vagueness claim. The State contends that no plaintiff has
such standing. Its argument is two-fold. The State first construes the court’s


identify any impermissible applications of the Act. It is unnecessary to discuss these
arguments in light of the manner in which we have resolved the somewhat overlapping
questions of overbreadth and narrow tailoring.
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order as holding both that Jane Doe I had standing to challenge the Act
because she was governed by it and that Jane Does II and III did not have
standing because they were shot girls. The State argues that the court should
not have considered Jane Doe I’s facial vagueness claim because she also does
not have standing to raise it, as her conduct is “clearly covered” by the Act.
       The plaintiffs, on the other hand, contend that they each have standing
to challenge the Act for facial vagueness.              They do not explicitly make a
separate issue of the dismissal of the facial vagueness claim raised by Jane
Does II and III. They did not need to do so, as a trial court’s decision “must be
affirmed if the result is correct ‘although the lower court relied upon a wrong
ground or gave a wrong reason.’” NLRB v. Kentucky River Cmty. Care, Inc.,
532 U.S. 706, 722 n.3 (2001) (quoting SEC v. Chenery Corp., 318 U.S. 80, 88
(1943)). 4   The plaintiffs instead argue that they each have standing to
challenge the Act because they “seek to engage in the constitutionally-
protected expression of erotic dance” and are “entitled to fair warning as to
what conduct the [Act] seeks to prohibit.” Cf. Fernandes v. Limmer, 663 F.2d
619, 625 (5th Cir. Unit A Dec. 1981). Therefore, it is proper for us to consider
the standing of each of the three plaintiffs.
       As to the standing of Jane Doe I, the complaint states she was 20 years
old. That should mean her 20th birthday was no later than the day the
complaint was filed, which was September 22, 2016. She would have become
21 years old well before now. It follows that Jane Doe I is no longer affected
by the Act’s age requirement and the uncertainties of how little can be worn
by younger dancers. This court is without constitutional jurisdiction to resolve



       4 “A cross-appeal is generally not proper to challenge a subsidiary finding or conclusion
when the ultimate judgment is favorable to the party cross-appealing.” Cooper Indus., Ltd.
v. Nat’l Union Fire Ins. Co. of Pittsburgh, 876 F.3d 119, 126 (5th Cir. 2017) (quoting National
Union Fire Ins. Co. of Pittsburgh v. W. Lake Acad., 548 F.3d 8, 23 (1st Cir. 2008)).
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moot claims. See National Rifle Ass’n of Am., Inc. v. McCraw, 719 F.3d 338,
344 (5th Cir. 2013).    We thus consider whether the other plaintiffs have
standing to raise the remaining facial vagueness claim.
      We are guided by a few established principles. Though this suit has been
labeled a facial challenge for vagueness, in which a party to whom the law can
constitutionally be applied may bring claims for others to whom it allegedly
cannot, there is still Article III and prudential standing minima that must be
satisfied. These standing requirements are as applicable to this vagueness
claim as they were to the overbreadth claim we analyzed as follows:
             In First Amendment facial challenges, federal courts relax
      the prudential limitations and allow yet-unharmed litigants to
      attack potentially overbroad statutes — “to prevent the statute
      from chilling the First Amendment rights of other parties not
      before the court.” At the same time, Article III standing retains
      rigor even in an overbreadth claim.
Fairchild v. Liberty Indep. Sch. Dist., 597 F.3d 747, 754 (5th Cir. 2010)
(citations omitted) (quoting Secretary of Md. v. Joseph H. Munson Co., 467 U.S.
947, 956–58 (1984)). We have held that the Article III “rigor” requiring “a
constitutional harm adequate to satisfy the injury-in-fact requirement” can be
found in “[c]hilling a plaintiff’s speech.”    Id. at 754–55 (quoting Houston
Chronicle Publ’g Co. v. City of League City, 488 F.3d 613, 618 (5th Cir. 2007)).
We also have stated that a plaintiff alleging “a chilling of speech because of the
mere existence of an allegedly vague or overbroad statute can be sufficient
injury to support standing.” Center for Individual Freedom v. Carmouche, 449
F.3d 655, 660 (5th Cir. 2006). That analysis might fit Jane Does II and III,
who became shot girls because their desire to dance had been chilled by the
vagueness of the Act. That concept of injury could not save Jane Doe I, though.
The change wrought by the Act only has application to those who want to
engage in erotic dance and are not yet 21 years old. In no respect is a 21-year-
old chilled in her exercise of free expression by the Act challenged here.
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      We thus return to the district court’s decision about the standing of Jane
Does II and III. The court held that a different subsection of the statute
governed clothing for those serving or selling alcohol, and thus they could not
challenge the amendment governing erotic dancers. Immediately after that
holding, the court wrote that “the Plaintiffs also argue that [the Act] fails to
precisely define the phrase ‘breasts or buttocks are exposed to view,’ and
therefore leads to confusion about how much of an erotic dancer’s buttocks or
breasts must be ‘in view’ to trigger the Act.” The court then cited a portion of
the plaintiffs’ motion for a preliminary injunction in support. There, all three
plaintiffs collectively argued that the Act was facially vague because it “fails to
precisely define the phrase ‘breasts or buttocks are exposed.’” At the conclusion
of its analysis, the court wrote the “[p]laintiffs . . . demonstrated a likelihood
of success on their vagueness challenge.”
      These excerpts could be interpreted to mean the court considered the
facial vagueness claim pertaining to erotic dancers to have been raised by all
three plaintiffs. Quite differently, the State reasonably relies on the court’s
rejection of standing for Jane Does II and III to argue that the court held those
plaintiffs did not have standing to raise the facial vagueness challenge.
Regardless of the correct interpretation, the legal issue is subject to our de novo
review.
      As shot girls whose clothing requirements are set forth in a separate
statutory subsection, Jane Does II and III would lack standing to raise a
vagueness claim as to the erotic dancing limitations if their only contention
was that the Act left them uncertain as to the necessary attire for shot girls.
They alleged more, though.        They assert they want to “engage in the
constitutionally-protected expression of erotic dance” but are deterred from
doing so because of the Act’s vagueness. The complaint indicates that Jane
Does II and III were dancers but became shot girls because of the uncertainties
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of how little clothing they could wear as dancers. They both complain of lesser
income as shot girls and describe the economic difficulties they are facing.
Jane Doe III specifically claims that should the Act be invalidated, she “would
immediately return to erotic dancing as her preferred vocation.”
      With those as the relevant allegations, we must decide if each plaintiff
has claimed “she is ‘seriously interested in’ engaging ‘in a course of conduct
arguably affected with a constitutional interest[] but proscribed by statute.’”
Fairchild, 597 F.3d at 755 (quoting International Soc’y for Krishna
Consciousness v. Eaves, 601 F.2d 809, 818 (5th Cir. 1979) and Mississippi State
Democratic Party v. Barbour, 529 F.3d 538, 545 (5th Cir. 2008)).           In one
applicable precedent, the plaintiffs facially challenged a state’s disclosure
requirements for political committees and certain qualifying individuals.
Justice v. Hosemann, 771 F.3d 285, 288–90 (5th Cir. 2014). The plaintiffs had
engaged in political advocacy in the past. Id. at 290. They did not pursue any
kind of political activity in the campaign for a 2011 ballot initiative, though,
“because of what they view[ed] as Mississippi’s onerous and complicated
disclosure requirements.” Id. at 289–90. The Justice plaintiffs argued that the
disclosure laws were facially vague because they “relegated them to the
sidelines [in 2011] by ‘creat[ing] a significant chilling effect that ha[d]
prevented — and continue[d] to prevent — [them] and other similarly situated
groups from exercising their constitutional rights of free speech and
association.’” Id. at 290 (second alteration in original). We held that the
plaintiffs had standing to challenge the laws based on their “legitimate fear of
criminal penalties for failure to comply with” the disclosure requirements. Id.
at 291–92. We reasoned that “[t]heir past enthusiastic participation in the
political process” and their membership in political organizations showed that,
if not for Mississippi’s disclosure laws, they would again engage in political
activism that implicated the disclosure laws. Id. at 291.
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      We conclude that Jane Does II and III have sufficiently expressed a
“serious interest” in returning to erotic dancing, which is the conduct that is
undoubtedly affected by the Act.       Their allegations show they had been
dancers, remain employed at sexually-oriented businesses, and have expressed
a desire to return to their former vocation for both monetary and expressive
reasons. The State does not contest the plausibility of their allegations. They
have standing to raise a facial challenge to the statute.


            B. Merits of vagueness claim
      A law can be unconstitutionally vague if it “fails to provide those targeted
by the statute a reasonable opportunity to know what conduct is prohibited.”
Kucinich v. Tex. Democratic Party, 563 F.3d 161, 166 n.4 (5th Cir. 2009).
“When speech is involved, rigorous adherence to th[at] requirement[] is
necessary to ensure that ambiguity does not chill protected speech.” FCC v.
Fox Television Stations, Inc., 567 U.S. 239, 253–54 (2012).         Flexibility is
permitted but not at the expense of a statute’s failure to provide “fair notice”
to people who wish to avoid its prohibitions. Service Emps. Int’l Union, Local 5
v. City of Houston, 595 F.3d 588, 596–97 (5th Cir. 2010) (citation omitted).
Another helpful phrasing is that to survive a challenge for unconstitutional
vagueness, an offense must be defined “with sufficient definiteness that
ordinary people can understand what conduct is prohibited.” Roark & Hardee
LP v. City of Austin, 522 F.3d 533, 552 (5th Cir. 2008) (quoting Kolender, 461
U.S. at 357 (1983)) (emphasis in original).
      The plaintiffs maintain that the Act’s plain language and the State’s
interpretation of the text amounts to a “total ban” on erotic dancing for
individuals who are 18 to 20 years old. The Act, though, only applies to
entertainers at alcohol-licensed establishments. See LA. REV. STAT. §§ 26:90,
26:286. On its face, the Act does not appear to apply to sexually-oriented
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businesses that are not licensed to serve alcohol. The parties have not cited
any regulation of non-alcohol-licensed sexually-oriented businesses.             We
cannot conclude on the record before us that the Act operates as a complete
ban on the plaintiffs’ ability to engage in erotic dancing.
      In essence, plaintiffs contend that dancers 18-20 years old have not been
told by the statute with sufficiently precise language just how much of their
bodies must be covered in order to be in compliance. The State contends that
“wearing bikinis covering their breasts and buttocks” is the “obvious answer”
for individuals between the ages of 18 and 20 to conform their conduct to the
statute. The assertion about bikinis appears to have been offered first in its
briefing in district court and then here as a common-sense interpretation of
how a dancer could comply with the Act. We thus distinguish it from the
limiting instruction from Commissioner Marine-Lombard that was relevant as
to narrow tailoring. Therefore, the suggestion about bikinis does not have any
official status in our analysis of the Act’s clarity.
      We have already mentioned that regulatory ambiguity should not “chill
protected speech.” Fox Television Stations, 567 U.S. at 254. Importantly,
though, “perfect clarity and precise guidance” are not required. See Rock
Against Racism, 491 U.S. at 794. That latter case dealt with regulation of noise
from events at New York City’s Central Park. Id. at 784. The city’s noise
standard stated “its goals [were] to ‘provide the best sound for all events’ and
to ‘insure appropriate sound quality balanced with respect for nearby
residential neighbors and the mayorally decreed quiet zone of [the] Sheep
Meadow.’” Id. at 794 (second alteration in original). The Court relied on official
interpretations and the historical application of the noise standards, as those
were “highly relevant” to its analysis in the sense that they become limiting
constructions. See id. at 795–96. Acknowledging the discretion placed in the


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hands of city officials, the Court held the guidelines still withstood a facial
challenge. See id.
      Similar imprecision was permitted regarding the city of Detroit’s zoning
for theaters projecting sexually explicit movies.      See Young v. Am. Mini
Theatres, Inc., 427 U.S. 50 (1976). There, despite some ambiguity in how much
sexual content the movies needed to have to fall afoul of the ordinance, the
plaintiffs conceded that because of the movies they wanted to exhibit, “there
[was] no uncertainty about the impact of the ordinances on their own rights.”
Id. at 59. “The application of the ordinances to respondents [wa]s plain,”
causing the Court to reject a facial vagueness challenge in which the plaintiffs
sought to rely on uncertainty about other situations. Id. at 61.
      These are among the most on-point Supreme Court decisions. Some of
our sister circuits have dealt with questions much closer to our own. One
concerned a vagueness challenge to a Kansas law prohibiting erotic dancers
from “displaying of post-pubertal human genitals, buttocks, or pubic area, or
the female breast below the top of the nipple.” Dodger’s Bar & Grill, Inc. v.
Johnson Cnty. Bd. of Cnty. Comm’rs, 32 F.3d 1436, 1445 (10th Cir. 1994).
Quite similar to the issue here, the court dealt with the fact that there were no
statutory details about avoiding a display of the “buttocks” comparable to the
statute’s guidance on the requirement that “breasts” be covered. The plaintiffs
there explicitly complained, as is also implicit in the plaintiffs arguments here,
that the statute “fails to specify at what point an individual’s buttocks [are]
displayed.” Id. at 1444. Such silence was not a constitutional defect, the court
held, because “the common understanding of the term supplies a clear enough
standard.”    Id.    We agree with the Tenth Circuit that the natural
understanding of an obligation to cover a person’s buttocks is that they must
be covered entirely. Id. at 1445. Further detail is not for this lawsuit.


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      More recently, the Fourth Circuit upheld a Virginia law that prohibited
“persons connected with [an alcohol-]licensed business to appear nude or
partially nude.” Imaginary Images, Inc. v. Evans, 612 F.3d 736, 750 (4th Cir.
2010). The phrase “nude or partially nude” was statutorily defined to mean
“less than a fully-opaque covering of the genitals, pubic hair or buttocks, or any
portion of the breast below the top of the areola.” Id. The court held that the
meaning of these and other terms not involved here, such as a “striptease act,”
to be ones of common usage and everyday speech. Id. The court thus rejected
the argument that the statute was “unconstitutionally vague because it is
unclear how much clothing has to be worn to satisfy their requirements.” Id.
      To repeat, we have rejected that a law “must delineate the exact actions
a [person] would have to take to avoid liability.” Roark & Hardee, 522 F.3d at
552. What is required, though, is that the statute be written in such a manner
that “ordinary people” can understand what is prohibited. Id. The vagueness
argument made by these plaintiffs is that they want to know precisely how
much more of their bodies must be covered than dancers who are at least 21
years old are obliged to cover. They want to wear the bare minimum, but the
Constitution does not guarantee them that level of specificity. It is enough
that the Act requires the full coverage of the breasts and buttocks. These are
commonly understood anatomical terms. The State’s failure to define exactly
where at the anatomical margins the bare minimum lies does not render the
Act unconstitutionally vague on its face. Such an explanation, which would
amount to “perfect clarity and precise guidance,” is not required. Rock Against
Racism, 491 U.S. at 794.
      This Act survives a facial challenge for vagueness.          As the State
acknowledges on rehearing, what remains are possible “as-applied challenges
brought in post-enforcement proceedings,” where the exact manner in which a


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regulation is implemented may be addressed. See City of El Cenizo v. Texas,
890 F.3d 164, 191 (5th Cir. 2018).
      The injunction is VACATED and the cause is REMANDED for further
proceedings.




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