                                                        United States Court of Appeals
                                                                 Fifth Circuit
                                                              F I L E D
                  UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS               June 18, 1999
                       FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT
                            No. 98-20031              Charles R. Fulbruge III
                                                              Clerk
    ROBERT HORTON, NATIONALIST TELEVISION, a Texas Non-Profit
                 Corporation; and BARRY HACKNEY,

                                              Plaintiffs-Appellants,

                               versus

  CITY OF HOUSTON, TEXAS and ACCESS HOUSTON CABLE CORPORATION,

                                             Defendants-Appellees.
           Appeal from the United States District Court
                for the Southern District of Texas
                           June 18, 1999
Before KING, Chief Judge, JOLLY, and JONES, Circuit Judges.

EDITH H. JONES, Circuit Judge:

           At issue in this appeal is whether Access Houston Cable

Corporation (“Access”), a “PEG” cable channel,1 can, consistent

with the First Amendment, charge a fee to cable-cast programs not

“locally produced” in and around Houston, Texas.     We conclude that

Access Houston’s fee requirement is a content-neutral regulation

which implements a significant governmental interest in promoting

localism, but Access has not met its burden of proving that the fee

is narrowly tailored to serve that interest.     We therefore reverse

the grant of summary judgment and remand for further proceedings.

                             BACKGROUND

           The City of Houston granted a cable franchise to Warner

Cable Communications (“Warner”) that required Warner to designate




       1
        PEG channels are those reserved for public, educational or
governmental use by the municipal franchise agreement with a cable
operator. See 47 U.S.C. § 531 and 531(e).
at least four PEG channels for the city’s benefit.2                        Houston then

engaged Access to manage the channels, including a public access

channel.3             Access is not a typical cable channel:               It does not

operate for profit, it does not have an editorial board that

selects          programming       for    cable-cast,    and     it     does    not   sell

advertising space.             Instead, Access’s programming space is open to

any           individual      or   organization       who      wishes     to     televise

constitutionally              protected    speech.      Access        neither    produces

programs nor broadcasts commercial programs.                            To promote the
original programming on which it relies, Access offers (for a

nominal fee) video cameras and other production equipment, training

workshops, studio space and other services.

                  Access touts that it will broadcast any non-commercial

program          as    long   as   the    program    engages    in    constitutionally

protected speech and complies with various rules designed to

allocate air time among the programmers.                    Access employees do not

pre-screen submitted programs to determine whether they comply with

the non-commercial speech rule or the First Amendment; instead,

Access requires program providers to accept liability for the
content of their programs by signing a Program Contract before the

program will be aired.4


      2
        Under the franchise agreement, the City of Houston can require
Warner to make available an additional four cable channels if certain
conditions are met.
          3
           That Access is a state actor is undisputed on appeal.
      4
     Pursuant to Rule 2.A-5, all program providers who wish to schedule
broadcast time with Access must first sign a Program Contract. The Rule
states that,


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            At   the   time   this   dispute     arose,      Access   sought   to

encourage    programs     “that    reflect[]    the    activities,       culture,

concerns, and interests of the citizens of Houston and []promote a

free exchange of        ideas,    information    and   understanding.”5        To

fulfill its contractual obligation with the City, Access’s Board of

Directors adopted a rule, which has been in effect since 1988,

providing for “locally produced” programs to be broadcast free of

charge.     To qualify as a “locally produced program,” at least 50

percent of the program must have been shot within the Houston
Standard Metropolitan Statistical Area.                Programs that do not

comply with      the   “locally   produced”     rule   are    assessed    a   fee:

individuals who submit non-local programs must pay $75 for each

hour of programming, while organizations are charged $100 per hour.

Because Access does not pre-screen submitted programs, it cannot

initially determine whether a program complies with the rule.

Access relies on each program provider voluntarily to disclose

whether the submitted program was locally produced.

            In March 1992, Appellant Nationalist Television (“N-TV”),

as agent for Houston resident appellant Robert Horton, submitted a


     2.A-5 PROGRAM CONTRACT AND RESPONSIBILITY: Before access
     programs are scheduled for cable-cast, the access program
     provider must sign a Program Contract which holds the program
     provider liable for content of the program and pay all
     applicable fees.     In signing the Program Contract, the
     program provider agrees in writing that his or her program
     does not include any form of “constitutionally unprotected
     speech.”
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      Access Houston ByLaws Art. III (1986). After the events in this
case, in its 1994 contract with the City of Houston, the requirement to
support localism became more explicit: “a minimum of 51 percent of the
total hours programmed on the Access channel shall be locally produced
in the Houston metropolitan area.”

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30-minute program for cable-cast entitled Airlink.6               After a month

had passed and the program had not been cable-cast, N-TV wrote to

the   Houston   City      Attorney’s        office   demanding    that   Access

immediately cable-cast Airlink.             The City Attorney replied that

Access operates independently of the City and that Houston cannot

require Access       to   broadcast    Airlink.      In    addition,   N-TV   was

informed that, according to Access, N-TV had not complied with the

procedural requirements necessary to broadcast Airlink and that N-

TV should directly contact Access to complete the application
process.    Despite this notification and the receipt of a complete

copy of the Access procedural rules, N-TV continued to complain to

the Houston City Attorney’s Office rather than to Access.                 Months

later, N-TV turned to Access and learned that it, like all other

program providers, must sign a Program Contract.               Two months more

passed, N-TV finally signed the requested Program Contract, and

Access began cable-casting Airlink.

            Airlink was produced at a studio in Mississippi and did

not qualify as a “locally produced program.”                     N-TV was thus

required to pay the $100 cable-cast fee.7                 N-TV refused to pay,
arguing that the fee violated the First Amendment, and filed the

present    lawsuit    seeking   a     declaratory    judgment,     a   temporary

restraining order, and a permanent injunction.              Ironically, Access

began regularly cablecasting Airlink just after the suit was filed,

      6
        The content of Airlink is described as “pro-majority” in some
portions of the record and “white supremacist” in other parts of the
record.
     7
       Since Airlink was a half-hour program, the $100 fee was prorated,
making N-TV liable for $50 per cable-cast.

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from December 1992 through February 1993. When N-TV refused to pay

fees for the three months of programming that had been aired,

Airlink was canceled.

          Immediately after appellants filed suit, the district

court held a hearing to rule on appellants’ request for a temporary

restraining order (“TRO hearing”).     The district court denied the

request and offered to set the case for trial.      Each party then

moved for summary judgment.    The court held in favor of Access and

the city, ruling that the fee requirement is a facially valid,
content-neutral regulation incidental to free speech under the test

articulated in United States v. O’Brien, 391 U.S. 367, 88 S. Ct.

1673 (1968), and that the appellants failed to raise a genuine

issue of material fact regarding whether the fee requirement was

unconstitutional as applied.

                          STANDARD OF REVIEW

          The standard of review of a summary judgment at the

appellate level is de novo.      Summary judgment is proper if “the

pleadings, depositions, answers to interrogatories, and admissions

on file, together with any affidavits, if any, show that there is
no genuine issue as to any material fact and that the moving party

is entitled to judgment as a matter of law.”        Fed. R. Civ. P.

56(c); see also Celotex Corp. v. Catrett, 477 U.S. 317, 322-24, 106

S. Ct. 2548 (1986).     Under this standard, all fact questions must

be viewed in the light most favorable to the non-moving party, and

questions of law are reviewed de novo.     Hassan v. Lubbock Indep.

Sch. Dist., 55 F.3d 1075, 1079 (5th Cir. 1995).


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                                DISCUSSION

           N-TV scatter-guns its First Amendment arguments against

the Access fee for non-locally-produced programs.                Attacking the

fees both facially and as applied, N-TV asserts that the fee rule

grants overbroad, arbitrary discretion to Access administrators,

encouraging content-based discrimination against programs.                  More

fundamentally,    N-TV   contends     that    the   fee    regulation     is   an

impermissible     content-based      rule.      N-TV      also   levels    equal

protection, overbreadth and vagueness challenges to the fees, but
these arguments were not raised in the district court and will not

be considered here.

           Fitting the PEG channels into the familiar holes of First

Amendment jurisprudence is not easy. The premise of our discussion

is that programmers have some kind of First Amendment rights to

share the podium at a PEG local access channel set aside by

Houston’s cable franchise contract.          The Supreme Court has implied

that all of the participants in cable television-programmers, cable

operators, TV broadcasters, PEG channels -- enjoy free speech

rights,   but    the   limits   of   those    competing      and   potentially
conflicting rights are far from clear. See generally, Pluralism on

the Bench: Understanding Denver Area Educational Telecommunications

Consortium v. FCC, 97 Colum. L. Rev. 1182 (1997).

           The first conundrum relates to the dubious status of PEG

channels, which municipalities have the authority to set aside in

their cable franchise agreements with cable operators.                    See 47

U.S.C. § 531(a).       In the “must-carry” case, the Supreme Court


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upheld a federal law requiring cable operators to make available

transmission space for local TV broadcasters.    Turner Broadcasting

System v. FCC, 512 U.S. 622, 114 S. Ct. 2445 (1994).        The Court

concluded that the “must-carry” provisions are a content-neutral

regulation designed, not to force a particular type of speech upon

cable operators, but to further the non-speech-related goals of

protecting local broadcasters and assuring free TV access to

citizens who lack cable connections. The four dissenters in Turner

essentially stated, however, that forced set-aside of PEG channels
is a content-related imposition on cable operators, Turner 512 U.S.

at 675, 114 S. Ct. at 2476 (O’Conner, J., concurring in part and

dissenting in part), and the majority decision offers no rationale

opposed to such a conclusion.8    Justice Thomas reiterated the PEG

constitutionality problem and scholarly discussions of it in the

Court’s most recent cable decision, only to note that the issue had

not been raised.    See Denver Area Educ. Telecomm. Consortium v.

FCC, ___ U.S. ___, 116 S. Ct. 2374 (1996).      The ultimate fate of

PEGs, including Houston’s local access channel, remains in doubt,

but is not to be decided in this case.
          The second conundrum arises from the implicit concession

of Access that the local access channel represents a government-

owned designated public forum. Nevertheless, the Supreme Court has

cautioned that “the public forum doctrine should not be extended in



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      Indeed, the majority emphasized that neither the must-carry rule
nor laws and rules presently applicable to broadcasting (e.g. on non-
commercial stations) directs the content of the programs. Turner, 512
U.S. at 649-651, 114 S. Ct. at 2462-63.

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a   mechanical   way   to   the   very    different    context     of   public

television-broadcasting.”         Arkansas   Educ.    Television    Comm.   v.

Forbes, __ U.S. __, 118 S. Ct. 1633, at 1639 (1998).               In a later

cable regulation case, seven justices of the Court either rejected

or declined to consider Justice Kennedy’s assertion that a local

access channel is a public forum available to citizens under the

most exacting constitutional standards.          Compare Denver Area, ___

U.S. at ___, 116 S. Ct. at 2404-05 (Kennedy, J., concurring in part

and dissenting in part), with id. ___ U.S. at ___, 116 S. Ct. at
2388-89 (Breyer, J.) (refusing to consider public forum doctrine),

and id. ___ U.S. at ____, 116 S. Ct. at 2426-28 (Thomas, J.,

concurring in the judgment in part and dissenting in part) (PEG

channel is not a public forum).          If one were either to press the

analogy between Access and a classic public television station or

to reject the public forum doctrine for local access channels, then

Access would enjoy virtually unfettered programming discretion.

Access does not request such latitude, however, so the arguments

that Access is not a public forum or is a limited public forum are

not before us.
           The   consequence,     for    First   Amendment   purposes,      of

ascribing particular forum (or non-forum) characteristics to Access

lies in the strictness of legal scrutiny that will be applied to

Access’s fee regulation.      Access contends that the regulation is

subject to “intermediate scrutiny” because it has nothing to do

with the content of programmers’ speech.         Turner, 512 U.S. at 642,

114 S. Ct. at 2459.    N-TV argues and Access concedes that were the


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regulation content-related, it would be subject to strict scrutiny.

Id. And this dichotomy of regulations has been developed to govern

what may be done to limit speech in either a traditional public

forum or a designated public forum.9             See 4 Ronald D. Rotunda &

John E. Nowak, Treatise on Constitutional Law § 20.47 at 310-11 (2d

Ed. 1992).        Although it is impossible to state whether a local

access channel should be analyzed by reference to the public forum

doctrines, the dichotomy of standards seems to apply to broadcast

regulations.
               The nub of the parties’ disagreement turns upon whether

the fee charged for non-locally produced programs is content-

neutral, or, as N-TV would have it, a ruse for influencing the

content of programs that will be cable-cast.

               The Supreme Court has observed that “[d]eciding whether

a particular regulation is content based or content neutral is not

always a simple task.”          Turner, 512 U.S. at 642, 114 S. Ct. at

2459.       Regulations that “by their terms distinguish favored speech

from disfavored speech on the basis of ideas or views expressed are

content based.”       Id. 512 U.S. at 643, 114 S. Ct. at 2459.          Thus, a
rule that       is   applied   because   of   disagreement   with   a   message

presented or a rule that has a substantial risk of eliminating

certain ideas or viewpoints from the public dialogue are content-

based.       See id. 512 U.S. at 642, 114 S. Ct. at 2459; Clark v.



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       If Access were, instead, a limited public forum or a nonpublic
forum it would be permitted to place reasonable restrictions on the
speech of programmers. See Forbes, ___ U.S. at ___, 118 S. Ct. at
1640-42. But it plainly does not fit in these categories.

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Community for Creative Non-Violence, 468 U.S. 288, 295, 104 S. Ct.

3065, 3070 (1984).        If, on the other hand, the regulation is

justified without reference to the content of the speech or serves

purposes   unrelated     to   the     content,   it    is   a   content-neutral

regulation, even if it has an incidental effect on some speakers or

messages but not others.      See Ward v. Rock Against Racism, 491 U.S.

781, 791, 109 S. Ct. 2746, 2754 (1989); Boos v. Barry, 485 U.S.

312, 320, 108 S. Ct. 1157, 1163 (1988).               Finally, this court has

noted that government regulations that apply evenhandedly to all
speakers   weigh    in   favor   of    finding    content-neutrality.       See

International Soc’y for Krishna Consciousness of New Orleans, Inc.

v. Baton Rouge, 876 F.2d 494, 497 (5th Cir. 1989).

           We conclude that Access’s fee rule is content-neutral

because the rule does not, by its terms, distinguish between

favored speech and disfavored speech.            Access does not examine the

content or message of submitted programs in determining whether to

impose a fee.      Compare Frisby v. Schultz, 487 U.S. at 474, 481-82,

108 S. Ct. 2495, at 2501 (1988) (finding that a municipal ordinance

prohibiting all picketing near a residence was content-neutral
because government did not have to look at the content to determine

where picketers can demonstrate), with Boos, 485 U.S. 312, at 318-

19, 108 S. Ct. 1157, at 1162 (1988) (finding that an ordinance

prohibiting demonstrations in front of foreign embassies that are

critical of the foreign government was content based because

government necessarily had to review content to determine the

legality of the demonstration).              Access’s fee regulation is an


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evenhanded charge on all providers submitting non-locally-produced

programming, regardless of the content or viewpoint contained in

the program.       In addition, the fee rule can be justified without

referring to the content of any of the submitted programs.                                See

Ward, 491 U.S. at 791, 109 S. Ct. at 2754.                      As discussed infra,

Access asserts that the fee rule promotes local ideas and debate

and helps fund equipment and training for local producers and the

cost of Access’s operations.             See id.; Boos, 485 U.S. at 320, 108

S. Ct. at 1163.         Finally, we rely on a Seventh Circuit case that
upheld as content-neutral, albeit before Turner, a Chicago rule

requiring    locally-produced        programs.             Chicago        Cable   Comm.    v.

Chicago Cable Comm’n, 879 F.2d 1540 (7th Cir. 1989).

            To the extent that Access’s fee rule unabashedly prefers

locally-produced         programs,       we        recognize        that     it    is     not

unassailable.        The dissenters in Turner criticized legislative

preferences       for   “diversity       of    viewpoints,          for    localism,      for

educational       programming   .    .    .”       as    content-based       regulations.

Turner, 512       U.S. at 675, 114 S. Ct. at 2476.                  They noted that no

matter how praise-worthy the objectives, government may not favor
one set of speakers over another.                  See id. 512 U.S. at 677-78, 114

S. Ct. at 2476-77. Only a four-member plurality in Turner directly

responded    to    arguments    concerning              localism,    but    the   majority

opinions emphasized the purely economic reasons why Congress wanted

to support local broadcasters by requiring “must-carry” by cable

operators.        The non-speech-related basis for the rule made it

content-neutral.        See id. 512 U.S. at 645, 114 S. Ct. at 2461.


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          In this case, one may argue that while the interest in

“localism” is furthered by the fee rule, not only is there no

direct content regulation, but the fee compensates the citizens of

Houston in a small way for the costs incurred when non-locally-

produced programs air on the Access channel.            The fee subsidizes

Access and substitutes for the local resources that could otherwise

be utilized to produce programs.           The fee thus has an independent

economic basis more closely analogous to the content-neutral must-

carry rule than to a purely content-related localism preference.
We therefore conclude that the non-locally-produced fee rule is

content-neutral.

          The standard for evaluating the constitutionality of

content-neutral regulations was articulated in O’Brien:

     [A] government regulation is sufficiently justified [1]
     if it is within the constitutional power of the
     Government; [2] if it furthers an important or
     substantial   governmental    interest;    [3]   if   the
     governmental interest is unrelated to the suppression of
     free expression; and [4] if the incidental restriction on
     alleged First Amendment freedoms is no greater than is
     essential to the furtherance of that interest.

O’Brien, 391 U.S. at 377, 88 S. Ct. at 1679.                 As Access’s fee
regulation is on balance a content-neutral rule, the third prong of

the O’Brien test has been satisfied, and, germane to the first

prong, Houston has the power to sponsor a public access cable

channel and raise revenues for its operation.

          Still    at   issue   are   the     second   and   fourth   O’Brien

standards.   “Even a content-neutral regulation of speech on a

public forum must be narrowly tailored to serve a significant

government interest and must leave open ample alternative channels

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of communication.”         Hays County Guardian v. Supple, 969 F.2d 111,

118 (5th Cir. 1992).        The burden is on Access to show that the fee

requirement     is    narrowly   tailored   to   protect    the   identified

interests.     See id. at 119.        A regulation is narrowly tailored

“when it     does    not   ‘burden   substantially   more   speech   than    is

necessary to further the government’s legitimate interests.’”               Id.

at 118 (quoting Ward, 491 U.S. at 799, 109 S. Ct. at 2758).                 In

other words, Access must show that the fee requirement promotes a

substantial governmental interest that would be achieved less
effectively absent the regulation. See United States v. Albertini,

472 U.S. 675, 689, 105 S. Ct. 2897, 2906 (1985); Chicago Cable, 879

F.2d at 1550.

           Access argues that the fee requirement promotes the

substantial governmental interest in “localism.”              According to

Access, the fee encourages residents to produce programs featuring

topics of local concern which in turn enhances community self-

expression and fosters direct communication among residents. Since

a portion of the revenues derived from Houston residents’ cable

bills funds Access’s operations, residents should not have to
subsidize non-locally-produced programs.10 Similarly, Access urges

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      At the TRO hearing, the executive director for Access expanded on
this theme, testifying that,
     the residents of the City of Houston, through their cable
     bills, underwrote the costs of the facilitation that our
     organization provides of putting the programs together,
     scheduling them and putting them on the cable system. We’ve
     never had a problem with where programs come from in terms
     of content. We frankly don’t care about what the content is.
     What we were concerned about was it seemed unfair to us that
     the residents of City of Houston should subsidize programs
     that were from somewhere else and that, if someone wished to

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that the revenues generated from the fee train local producers,

purchase production equipment, and fund the general operations of

Access.          Finally,     encouraging        residents       to     produce      local

programming increases job opportunities and career development of

Houston residents.          We agree--and N-TV does not dispute11--that the

promotion        of   “localism”      in    this    context       is        an   important

governmental interest.          See Chicago Cable, 879 F.2d at 1549-50.

             That Access’s asserted interests are substantial in the

abstract does not mean, however, that the fee regulation fulfills
them and is narrowly tailored to protect those interests.                          The fee

rule will be considered narrowly tailored if Access can demonstrate

that   it   does      not   “burden     substantially      more       speech      than   is

necessary to further the government’s legitimate interests.” Ward,

491 U.S. at 799, 109 S. Ct. at 2758.               According to Access’s rules,

“locally    produced        programs”      are   aired    free    of    charge,     while

“programs produced elsewhere” are charged either $75 or $100 per

hour. Access defines local programming as “[a]ny program submitted

for cable-cast containing program material of which fifty (50)

percent     or    greater     was     shot”      within   the     Houston         Standard
Metropolitan Statistical Area.

             Access has failed to demonstrate narrow tailoring of the

fee rule as a matter of law.            It has not shown that, absent the fee

charged     to    providers    of   non-local       programs,         its    interest    in


     use the facilities, that they should contribute to sustaining
the organization that had to help facilitate the users of all the
programs on the channels.
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         At oral argument, N-TV agreed that Houston has a substantial
interest in promoting localism.

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promoting     localism   “would   be     achieved   less    effectively.”

Albertini, 472 U.S. at 689, 105 S. Ct. at 2906.            Access has not

provided any evidence linking the amount charged to non-local

producers and the promotion of localism.        More precisely, Access

has not shown the amount of revenue generated from the fee, the

number of providers who have been charged the fee, or whether the

fees have actually helped purchase equipment, train producers,

enhance community self-expression, or offset amounts underwritten

by Houston cable subscribers.          Access acknowledged there is no
scarcity of time available for programs, so the fee plays no role

in rationing airtime favorably to locally produced programs.

            Access’s general fee schedule demonstrates the lack of

correlation between the amount charged to non-locally produced

programs and its stated justification for imposing a fee.          Access

heavily subsidizes most of the services and equipment it offers to

the public.    Next to each item listed on the general fee schedule,

Access lists the cost of the item, the amount subsidized by Access,

and the resulting net cost to the producer.12 Notably, however, the

fees charged to program providers for cable-casting their programs
are not itemized by actual cost, amount subsidized, and net cost to

provider.   The general fee schedule merely states that Access airs

locally produced programs free of charge, while programs produced

elsewhere are charged either $75 or $100 per hour, depending on


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       For example, the actual cost of renting a “VideoMobile Portable
Kit” is $250; however, Access pays $190 of the cost via a grant, leaving
the producer liable for only $60.           See Access Houston Cable
Corporation’s Objections to Proposed Order Granting Summary Judgment,
Exhibit D (fee schedule effective May 19, 1988).

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whether the provider is an individual or organization. Not only is

there no evidence how much of the fee charged for non-locally-

produced programs compensates Access for its cable-casting costs of

those programs, but Access’s executive director testified that he

had recommended abolition of the fee to the Board of Directors.

The inescapable conclusion is that the fee serves no measurable

purpose.

            Because Access has not met its summary judgment burden to

sustain the fee, this case must be reversed and remanded.           See
Turner, 512 U.S. at 667-68, 114 S. Ct. at 2471-72 (reversed and

remanded for further factual development).         On remand, Access

should prove how much revenue accrues from the fee for non-locally-

produced programs, as well as the purposes for which it uses the

revenue.    If the revenue is minimal -- that is, if it fails to

ration scare airtime, to reimburse Access’s costs of airing non-

locally-produced programs, or to make any realistic dent in the

costs borne by cable subscribers for the production facilities --

then the district court may conclude that the fee suppresses

protected speech without providing any asserted benefits.
            Further judicial efforts would be avoided, however, if we

accept N-TV’s alternative argument that the fee rule confers

excessive   discretion   upon   Access’s   administrator   and   permits

content-based discrimination.      According to N-TV, Access’s own

interpretation of the fee rule undermines the argument that it is

narrowly tailored. See Forsyth County v. The Nationalist Movement,

505 U.S. 123, 131, 112 S. Ct. 2395, 2402 (1992) (courts should


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consider the government’s interpretation of a challenged regulation

when addressing facial challenges). In Forsyth County, the Supreme

Court addressed whether a county could constitutionally charge a

fee to speakers who wished to hold a rally in a traditional public

forum.   See id. 505 U.S. at 129, 112 S. Ct. at 2400.            The Court

struck down the ordinance because it vested too much discretion in

the   county    administrator;   the    administrator   could,     without

objective guidance, determine how much or whether to charge the

demonstrators a permit fee of up to $1,000.        See id. 505 U.S. at
132-33, 112 S. Ct. at 2402-03.    In the present case, the Executive

Director of Access felt that he could independently determine

whether to charge a fee for certain non-locally-produced programs.

During the TRO hearing, the following exchange occurred between

Appellants’ attorney and Access’s Executive Director:

      Question:     What about a guy that stopped
                    by the other day and just
                    happened to pick up some of
                    your     material    and    the
                    receptionist was there and I
                    said,   “You   know,   what  if
                    somebody wanted to go up and
                    get an interview in Dallas with
                    Ross Perot, shoot it up there”
                    and she said, “That will be all
                    right?”    Would that be okay
                    with you?

      Answer:       It would be okay with me.

      Question:     No charge for that?

      Answer:       No charge.

      Question:     Okay. Now, just assume for a
                    moment that here is a tape and
                    we’re showing it and there is
                    Senator Gramm. He’s seated at
                    a desk. There’s books behind

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                     him.   And he’s sitting there
                     talking about taxes. Everybody
                     is concerned about them these
                     days. Any problem putting that
                     on?

       Answer:       No.

       Question:     Okay. Now, let’s say that it’s
                     on the air and one of your
                     staff comes in and says “Mr.
                     Cantrell, you know, I’ve been
                     in Senator Gramm’s office in
                     Washington and I recognize
                     those books. That was filmed
                     in his office in Washington.”
                     No real problem, though?
       Answer:       No real problem.

Other similar exchanges occurred during the TRO hearing, each one

suggesting that Access’s administrator could, at his discretion,

make   special     exceptions   to   the   fee   rule   depending   upon   the

circumstances presented.13       The discretion afforded the Executive

Director is highlighted by contrasting the hypothetical above with

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         For instance, in another exchange, Access’s Executive Director
testified as follows:
   Counsel:      Let’s say that Mr. Horton comes into your
                 studio and he produces a show right there
                 in your studio every week, free. He goes
                 to Mississippi. He’s over there visiting
                 the headquarters [of N-TV] and everything
                 and the poor fellow is in a car wreck and
                 he broke his leg and he calls you up and
                 says, “I can’t get back to Houston. I’m
                 going to have to shot this from the
                 hospital bed in Jackson” and he sends you
                 the tape. Is he going to have to pay for
                 that?
   Answer:       Under the Current rules, that would be the
case.
   Counsel:      Would you waive that in this case?
   Answer:       Would I waive it?
   Counsel:      Yes
   Answer:       In the grievance procedure, I would
                 recommend that we waive it.       I would
                 probably take it upon myself to waive it.

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one presented to him later during the TRO hearing:

      Question:      [Suppose] [h]e’s got a 30-
                     minute show.     He comes so
                     close. for 14 minutes he shows
                     the Houston skyline. Would you
                     let him slide on that without
                     having to pay?

      Answer:        Like I say, we would -- that
                     would be a good issue to
                     discuss    in the   grievance
                     procedure.

      Question:      You might let it slide?

      Answer:        Well, I don’t think I would let
                     it slide. But if it came up, I
                     think it would be something
                     worth   discussing   with   the
                     board.

            Access’s response to this troubling amount of apparently

unguided discretion is that N-TV presented no actual evidence that

the fee had been discriminatorily imposed.          We agree that, in light

of the express objectivity of the rule, a facial challenge based on

standardless discretion lacks merit. The rule, unlike the sliding-

scale fee in Forsyth, unequivocally identifies the programs to

which it applies and simply does not justify the latitude which the

Executive Director hypothesized.            Further, lacking any proof that
the   fee   was   ever   administered        discriminatorily   to   suppress

disfavored speech, N-TV’s as-applied challenge must fail.

                                 CONCLUSION

            Much is uncertain about the scope of First Amendment

benefits and      burdens   in   the   cable    industry.   The   directions

presently available to us from the Supreme Court appear to require

a standard less than that of strict scrutiny for Access’s non-


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locally-produced fee rule, but they also require attention to the

details of intermediate scrutiny.    Regulations like this one which

burden protected speech are not to be rubber-stamped.   Based on the

foregoing discussion, the case must be reversed and remanded for

further factual development.

          REVERSED and REMANDED.




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