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                       REVISED August 9, 2018

         IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
                  FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT
                                                                    United States Court of Appeals
                                                                             Fifth Circuit

                                 No. 17-30667                              FILED
                                                                      August 3, 2018
                                                                      Lyle W. Cayce
                                                                           Clerk
TRAVIS SEALS; ALI BERGERON,

                                           Plaintiffs–Appellees,

versus

BRANDON MCBEE; ET AL.,

                                           Defendants,

JEFF LANDRY, Attorney General, State of Louisiana,

                                           Intervenor–Appellant.



                Appeal from the United States District Court
                   for the Eastern District of Louisiana




Before SMITH, WIENER, and WILLETT, Circuit Judges.
JERRY E. SMITH, Circuit Judge:

      Louisiana Revised Statutes § 14:122 criminalizes “the use of violence,
force, or threats” on any public officer or employee with the intent to influence
the officer’s conduct in relation to his position. Travis Seals threatened police
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when arrested; he facially challenges Section 14:122 as unconstitutionally
overbroad in violation of the First Amendment. The district court agreed with
Seals. Because the meaning of “threat” is broad enough to sweep in threats to
take lawful, peaceful actions—such as threats to sue a police officer or chal-
lenge an incumbent officeholder―Section 14:122 is unconstitutionally over-
broad. We affirm the judgment invalidating it.

                                             I.
       In December 2014, Seals and Ali Bergeron were arrested for conduct not
specifically reflected in the record. Any charge was ultimately dismissed or
refused by the district attorney (“DA”). It appears that a neighbor accused
Seals and Bergeron of aggravated assault, and the police responded. According
to Seals, he was pepper-sprayed and verbally objected to the arrest, threat-
ening “to make lawful complaints” about the officers’ conduct. According to the
officers, Seals violently resisted and “repeatedly made threats of physical
harm.” 1 Ultimately, those disputes are immaterial.

       Seals and Bergeron filed a complaint against the arresting officer—
Brandon McBee―in September 2016, claiming malicious prosecution, conspir-
acy, and a First Amendment violation. The district court permitted Louisiana
to intervene to defend the constitutionality of Section 14:122. Plaintiffs then
moved for partial summary judgment on their First Amendment claim, alleg-
ing that Section 14:122 is facially invalid as overbroad and content-based.
Louisiana cross-moved for summary judgment, replying that plaintiffs lack
standing to challenge Section 14:122 because they seek only injunctive relief
but face no threat of future injury because no charges have yet been brought.

       1 Seals also avers that he was “charged” by the police with violating Section 14:122.
Yet Louisiana maintains that police officers don’t charge suspects; DAs do that. See LA. CODE
CRIM. P. art. 61; LA. CONST. art. V, § 26(B) (both providing that DAs have the power to
charge).
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And even with standing, Louisiana insists that Section 14:122 prohibits only
unprotected speech, such as true threats or extortion.

       The district court held a hearing to sort through standing. Plaintiffs
admitted that the DA had stated he had no intention of charging them at that
time. But plaintiffs maintained the DA could still prosecute Seals. Louisiana
reiterated that the DA has not brought charges but has never disputed that
Seals made threats, was arrested, and could be prosecuted under Section
14:122 until four years after the arrest, which is December 2019. 2

       The district court granted plaintiffs’ motion, finding standing and declar-
ing Section 14:122 overbroad as applying to constitutionally protected threats.
The court enjoined Louisiana from enforcing Section 14:122’s prohibition on
“threats.” Louisiana, through its attorney general, appeals.

                                              II.
       The core case-or-controversy requirement of Article III establishes an
“irreducible constitutional minimum of standing.” 3 Lujan v. Defs. of Wildlife,
504 U.S. 555, 560–61 (1992). Plaintiffs must demonstrate that (1) they have
suffered an “injury in fact,” which is a “an invasion of a legally protected inter-
est” that is “concrete and particularized” rather than “conjectural or hypothet-
ical,” (2) there is a “causal connection between the injury and the conduct com-
plained of” such that the injury is “fairly traceable to the challenged action of
the defendant, and not the result of the independent action of some third party



       2 Specifically, the court asked, “So there is nothing to preclude the District Attorney
from bringing these charges[?]” To which Louisiana’s attorney replied, “True. That is—there
is that speculative.”
       3 Plaintiffs suggest that, because Louisiana intervened only to defend the constitu-
tionality of Section 14:122, it cannot challenge their standing. But standing is jurisdictional
and should be addressed “when there exists a significant question about it.” K.P. v. LeBlanc,
627 F.3d 115, 122 (5th Cir. 2010) (addressing standing sua sponte).
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not before the court,” and (3) the injury likely will “be redressed by a favorable
decision.” Id. (cleaned up).

       Moreover, because plaintiffs seek injunctive relief, they must show that
“there is a real and immediate threat of repeated injury.” City of L.A. v. Lyons,
461 U.S. 95, 102 (1983) (quoting O’Shea v. Littleton, 414 U.S. 488, 496 (1974)).
Past injury alone is insufficient; plaintiffs must establish a “real or immediate
threat that [they] will be wronged again.” Id. at 111.

       Finally, “each element of Article III standing ‘must be supported in the
same way as any other matter on which the plaintiff bears the burden of
proof,’” with the same evidentiary requirements of that stage of litigation.
Bennett v. Spear, 520 U.S. 154, 167–68 (1997) (quoting Defs. of Wildlife,
504 U.S. at 561). Thus, at the summary judgment stage, plaintiffs must “‘set
forth’ by affidavit or other evidence ‘specific facts’ to survive a motion for
summary judgment.” Id. (quoting FED. R. CIV. P. 56(e)). 4

       Plaintiffs repeatedly assert that the requirements of standing are
relaxed in the First Amendment context. That is true, but only as relating to
the various court-imposed prudential requirements of standing. See Sec. of
State of Md. v. Joseph H. Munson Co., 467 U.S. 947, 954–58 (1984). They still
must show that they satisfy the core Article III requirements of injury, causa-
tion, and redressability. See id.; Miss. State Dem. Party v. Barbour, 529 F.3d
538, 545–48 (5th Cir. 2008) (dismissing a First Amendment claim for lack of
standing because there was no threat of future injury).

       Seals was arrested in connection with making some form of threats to




       4Contrary to plaintiffs’ assertion in a supplemental letter, this case was decided on
summary judgment. Plaintiffs have no authority to support their position that, even after
being granted summary judgment, their standing is reviewed on the pleadings.
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the police—thus he appears to have violated Section 14:122. Louisiana con-
cedes that Seals was so arrested and is legally subject to prosecution until
December 2019. And both parties agree that “a credible threat of prosecution”
is sufficient for standing. 5 Plaintiffs “should not be required to await and
undergo a criminal prosecution as the sole means of seeking relief.” 6

       Louisiana contends, however, that there is no threat of future injury
because—as plaintiffs admit—the D.A. has not charged Seals and has
expressly disavowed bringing such charges. 7 Thus, the state urges there is no
threat of future prosecution. 8

       Whether the government disavows prosecution is a factor in finding a
credible threat of prosecution. 9 Yet that is only one factor among many—for
example, in Humanitarian Law Project, 561 U.S. at 15–16, the Court found


      Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project, 561 U.S. 1, 15 (2010) (quoting Babbitt v. United
       5

Farm Workers Nat’l Union, 442 U.S. 289, 298 (1979)).
       6Id. (quoting United Farm Workers, 442 U.S. at 298); see also MedImmune, Inc. v.
Genentech, Inc., 549 U.S. 118, 128–29 (2007); Joseph H. Munson Co., 467 U.S. at 956–57.
       7According to the complaint, Seals received a nolle prosequi—from which plaintiffs
urged the court to infer a bona fide termination as required for their malicious prosecution
claim. That averment is of little significance, however, because a nolle prosequi is not a bar
to subsequent prosecution. See LA. CODE. CRIM. P. art. 693.
       8 Louisiana proffers that the Tenth Circuit has already decided this question. It has
not. In both cases cited by Louisiana, the Tenth Circuit was faced with a plaintiff who was
arrested and charged but whose charges were either formally dismissed or dropped. See
Ward v. Utah, 321 F.3d 1263, 1265–66, 1267 n.5 (10th Cir. 2003) (dealing with a plaintiff
whose “charges were dropped” and had not alleged “facts that would subject him to prosecu-
tion under the statute in the future”); Phelps v. Hamilton, 122 F.3d 1309, 1315−16 & n.5
(10th Cir. 1997) (dealing with plaintiffs whose charges were dismissed by jury acquittals).
Although the Tenth Circuit held that both sets of plaintiffs lacked standing for injunctive
relief based on prior arrests, it is unclear whether that court would reach the same result in
the face of an informal promise not to prosecute, as here.
       9  See, e.g., Humanitarian Law Project, 561 U.S. at 16 (“The Government has not
argued to this Court that plaintiffs will not be prosecuted if they do what they say they wish
to do.”); United Farm Workers, 442 U.S. at 302 (“[T]he State has not disavowed any intention
of invoking the criminal penalty provision against unions that commit unfair labor practices.
Appellees are thus not without some reason in fearing prosecution[.]”).
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standing because there was a history of enforcement, and the government
would not disavow prosecution. 10 And in United Farm Workers, 442 U.S. at
302, after asking whether the parties were “sufficiently adverse,” the Court
found standing because, even though the plaintiffs had not yet violated the
statute and the statute had never been applied, the government would not dis-
avow prosecution if plaintiffs engaged in their intended course of action. Id.
Significantly, in neither case had a plaintiff been arrested in connection with
violating the statute. After all, “we [do] not require . . . that the plaintiff bet
the farm, so to speak.” MedImmune, 549 U.S. at 129.

       Seals’s position mirrors that of the plaintiffs in United Farm Workers.
He already bet the farm.           And when he violated Section 14:122, he was
arrested. Louisiana has disavowed prosecution but concedes that Seals actu-
ally violated the statute and is legally subject to prosecution. 11 Moreover, Loui-
siana has introduced evidence of other enforcement actions that are currently
being pursued. Viewed alongside a review of Louisiana caselaw, that evidence
shows that Section 14:122 is not a mere paper tiger but has a real history of
enforcement. Because the scales are at least as balanced as in United Farm
Workers, Seals, too, has standing to challenge Section 14:122.

       This conclusion reflects the fundamental purpose of standing: “to ensure
. . . the federal courts are devoted to those disputes in which the parties have
a concrete stake.” Friends of the Earth, Inc. v. Laidlaw Envtl. Servs. (TOC),
Inc., 528 U.S. 167, 191 (2000). Seals plainly has a concrete stake in this litiga-
tion because the DA can change his mind and prosecute him. Plaintiffs “should

       10Specifically, the Court relied on the fact that the government had “charged about
150 persons with violating” the statute at issue. Humanitarian Law Project, 561 U.S. at 16.
       11Cf. PeTA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals v. Rasmussen, 298 F.3d 1198,
1203 (10th Cir. 2002) (finding a lack of standing where the government determined that the
intended course of conduct did not actually violate the challenged law); Faustin v. City & Cty.
of Denver, 268 F.3d 942, 948 (10th Cir. 2001) (same).
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not be required to await and undergo a criminal prosecution as the sole means
of seeking relief.” 12 We apply that principle here: Seals is not required to live
under the specter of prosecution for violating a potentially unconstitutional
law with nothing more than a non-committal promise as protection. 13

                                             III.
       We turn to whether Section 14:122 violates the First Amendment. To
show overbreadth, plaintiffs must establish that Section 14:122 encompasses
a substantial number of unconstitutional applications “judged in relation to
the statute’s plainly legitimate sweep.” 14 The “first step in overbreadth analy-
sis is to construe the challenged statute.” Stevens, 559 U.S. at 474 (quoting
United States v. Williams, 553 U.S. 285, 293 (2008)). Only after that can we
decide whether its unconstitutional applications are substantial and render
the law unconstitutional. Id.

                                             A.
       The parties dispute the reach of Section 14:122. We start with the text.


       12 Humanitarian Law Project, 561 U.S. at 15 (quoting United Farm Workers, 442 U.S.
at 298); Planned Parenthood of Cent. Mo. v. Danforth, 428 U.S. 52, 62 (1976) (quoting Doe v.
Bolton, 410 U.S. 179, 188 (1973)); Doe, 410 U.S. at 188; see also Susan B. Anthony List v.
Driehaus, 134 S. Ct. 2334, 2343 (2014); Cruz v. Abbott, 849 F.3d 594, 599 (5th Cir. 2017).
       13 Plaintiffs raise another theory of standing: that their future speech is chilled by
Section 14:122. Compare Ctr. for Individual Freedom v. Carmouche, 449 F.3d 655, 660–61
(5th Cir. 2006) (holding that the real chilling of intended speech, brought about by a real
threat of future prosecution, is enough to establish Article III standing), with Miss. State
Dem. Party, 529 F.3d at 545–46 (dismissing for lack of standing at summary judgment
because plaintiffs had not introduced any evidence of a “firm intention” to engage in pro-
scribed speech or conduct). We need not opine on that theory because Seals faces a credible
threat of future prosecution based on his past violation of Section 14:122 and his arrest. And
because he has standing, we “need not pass upon the status of [Bergeron] in this suit, for the
issues are sufficiently and adequately presented by [Seals], and nothing is gained or lost by
the presence or absence of [Bergeron].” Doe, 410 U.S. at 189.
       14United States v. Stevens, 559 U.S. 460, 473 (2010) (quoting Wash. State Grange v.
Wash. State Repub. Party, 552 U.S. 442, 449 n.6 (2008)). Contrary to plaintiffs’ assertion,
they have the burden of showing overbreadth. Virginia v. Hicks, 539 U.S. 113, 122 (2003).
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The statute criminalizes “public intimidation,” defined as “the use of violence,
force, or threats upon [a specified list of persons, including any public officer or
public employee] with the intent to influence his conduct in relation to his posi-
tion, employment, or duty.” (Emphasis added.) On its face, the statute is
extremely broad. The definition of “threat” generally encompasses any “state-
ment of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on
someone in retribution for something done or not done.” 15 That definition eas-
ily covers threats to call your lawyer if the police unlawfully search your house
or to complain to a DMV manager if your paperwork is processed wrongly.

       The state, however, contends that Section 14:122 requires a “corrupt
intent,” which it defines as the intent to obtain something the speaker is not
entitled to as a matter of right. According to Louisiana, that gloss—although
found nowhere in the text—has been applied by its state courts. And as
Louisiana notes, a gloss placed on a state statute by that state’s courts is
“conclusive on us.” 16

       We accept the gloss proposed by Louisiana. Although not explicit, Louisi-
ana caselaw strongly suggests that Section 14:122 requires a corrupt intent, as
defined by Louisiana. In State v. Daniels, 109 So. 2d 896, 906 (La. 1958),
overruled in part on other grounds by State v. Gatlin, 129 So. 2d 4 (La. 1961),
the court stated that “the crime of ‘Public Intimidation’ requires the same pur-
pose as that of ‘Public Bribery,’ the only difference being in the method



       15         Threat,        OXFORD            DICTIONARIES            (Online   ed.),
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/threat; see also Threat, MERRIAM-WEBSTER
(Online ed.), https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/threat (similar); cf. Threat,
BLACK’S LAW DICTIONARY 1708 (10th ed. 2014) (similar). Accord Gooding v. Wilson, 405 U.S.
518, 525 (1972) (using dictionary definitions to interpret a state statute).
       16Terminiello v. City of Chicago, 337 U.S. 1, 5 (1949); see also Stevens, 559 U.S. at 474
(“Because [18 U.S.C.] § 48 is a federal statute, there is no need to defer to a state court’s
authority to interpret its own law.”).
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employed.” 17      Moreover, the reporter’s comments provide that “public
intimidation . . . includes the same parties and requires the same purpose as”
public bribery. LA. R.S. § 14:122, cmt.

       Then, in State v. Smith, 212 So. 2d 410, 411−12 (La. 1968), the court was
faced with a vagueness challenge to Louisiana’s bribery statute. The court
found the law constitutional, reasoning in part that “the gist of [bribery] is that
it tends to corrupt.” Id. at 413. “Bribery must be committed with a corrupt
intent, that is, the intent is corrupt when it is to influence official action to
obtain a result which the party would not be entitled to as a matter of right.”
Id. at 415. (emphasis, citation, and internal quotations omitted).

       Thus, Louisiana caselaw can easily be read to say that Section 14:122
requires the same corrupt intent that Louisiana’s courts have read into its
public-bribery statute. And nothing in our review of Louisiana caselaw is
inconsistent with that requirement. 18 Accordingly, we assume, but only for
purposes of this appeal, that Section 14:122 requires a corrupt intent, defined
as the intent to obtain something that the speaker is not entitled to as a matter
of right.

       Yet we can narrow Section 14:122 no further. According to the state, we


       17See also State v. Dauzat, 284 So. 2d 592, 593–94 (La. 1973) (indicating that public
intimidation and public bribery are similar statutes); State v. Robertson, 128 So. 2d 646, 649
(La. 1961) (reading a statute in contrast to public intimidation and public bribery).
       18 See, e.g., State v. Godfrey, 25 So. 3d 756, 758, 761 (La. 2009) (affirming conviction
where defendant told a DA he would “pop-pop” him to influence the DA that the charges
should be dismissed as time-barred); O’Brien v. Town of Glenmora, 997 So. 2d 753, 758 (La.
App. 3d Cir. 2008) (stating that a person cursing at police officers, threatening their jobs, and
trying to grab their ticket book during a traffic stop could have intended to avoid arrest);
State v. Burgess, 876 So. 2d 263, 273–74 (La. App. 3d Cir. 2004) (holding that defendant’s
statements were unlikely made for the purpose of resisting arrest); State v. Jones, 772 So. 2d
788, 792 (La. App. 5th Cir. 2000) (affirming conviction where defendant made threats before
arrest and thus likely intended to influence officer against arresting him); State v. Meyers,
643 So. 2d 1275, 1276–79 (La. App. 5th Cir. 1994) (affirming conviction where defendant
made violent threats to obtain a photograph to which he was not entitled).
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should construe the statute to apply only to true threats, i.e. “a serious
expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence” toward specific
persons. 19 There are several reasons why we cannot do so. First, the definition
of “threat” is broader than true threats: any “statement of an intention to inflict
pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for some-
thing done or not done.” 20 Second, the reporter’s comments to Section 14:122
provide that the statute “should include threats of harm or injury to the char-
acter of the person threatened as well as actual or threatened physical vio-
lence.” LA. R.S. § 14:122, cmt. Thus, the section is not “readily susceptible” to
such a limiting construction. 21

       Finally, Louisiana’s reliance on its caselaw proves to be a double-edged
sword. As plaintiffs note, the Louisiana Court of Appeals has upheld the con-
viction of a defendant who violated Section 14:122 by threatening “to sue” an
officer and “get [his] job” if the officer arrested him. See State v. Mouton,
129 So. 3d 49, 54, 59 (La. App. 3d Cir. 2013). Plainly, such a threat suggests
no violence—indeed, the threat appears to be a plan to take perfectly lawful
actions. Accordingly, we cannot construe Section 14:122 to apply only to true
threats of violence.

       It follows that, properly understood, Section 14:122 applies to any threat
meant to influence a public official or employee, in the course of his duties, to
obtain something the speaker is not entitled to as a matter of right. But so
construed, the statute reaches both true threats—such as “don’t arrest me or


       19   See Virginia v. Black, 538 U.S. 343, 359 (2003).
       20         Threat,        OXFORD            DICTIONARIES           (Online         ed.),
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/threat (emphases added).
       21 City of El Cenizo v. Texas, 890 F.3d 164, 182 (5th Cir. 2018) (permitting federal
courts to impose limiting constructions on state statutes that are “readily susceptible” to the
construction, in order to save them) (citing Voting for Am., Inc. v. Steen, 732 F.3d 382, 396
(5th Cir. 2013)).
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I’ll hit you”—and threats to take wholly lawful actions—such as “don’t arrest
me or I’ll sue you.” In both those examples, the speaker may be legally subject
to arrest and is trying to influence a police officer in the course of his duties.
Thus, Section 14:122 makes both threats a criminal act.

                                        B.
      Plaintiffs insist that Section 14:122, so construed, is actually a content-
based restriction on speech, so we should immediately apply strict scrutiny.
See Reed v. Town of Gilbert, 135 S. Ct. 2218, 2226 (2015). Yet, in so arguing,
plaintiffs muddy the sometimes treacherous First Amendment waters; we pro-
ceed to provide some clarity.

      It is true that, by criminalizing “threats,” the statute regulates content.
And, as Louisiana rightly contends, Section 14:122 regulates unprotected con-
tent, such as true threats. See Black, 538 U.S. at 359. But even laws that
target only unprotected speech are still “content-based.” Unprotected speech
is still speech; true threats and the like may be “quite expressive” and are not
“entirely invisible to the Constitution.” R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul, 505 U.S. 377,
383–85 (1992). It is not that true threats are devoid of content; it is that they
may “be regulated because . . . their constitutionally proscribable content” is not
“essential” to the “exposition of ideas.” Id. (latter quoting Chaplinsky v. New
Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568, 572 (1942)). Thus, a state may constitutionally
regulate and proscribe unprotected speech, such as true threats, without trig-
gering a strict-scrutiny review—even though such a regulation is based on
content.

      That is not to say that a state has carte blanche when dealing with
unprotected speech. It may not, for example, regulate only certain kinds of
unprotected content based on a criterion that involves protected content—e.g.,
a law prohibiting only true threats involving particular political ideas. See id.
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at 385–86. 22 Nor may the government proscribe unprotected content through
a regulation that simultaneously encompasses a substantial amount of pro-
tected content, “judged in relation” to the unprotected content. See Stevens,
559 U.S. at 472–73; Black, 538 U.S. at 364–67. Either sort of regulation is a
kind of content-based regulation that is constitutionally suspect. The former
is subject to “strict scrutiny”; the latter, “overbreadth.”

       Section 14:122 does not implicate the former limitation. It regulates
threats, pure and simple. 23 And by targeting unprotected speech, such as true


       22Thus, in R.A.V., 505 U.S. at 391–95, the Court applied strict scrutiny to a city ordi-
nance that only prohibited true threats based on race, color, creed, religion, or sex. As the
Court explained, the ordinance disfavored only fighting words relating to certain topics, and
that was content discrimination. Id.
       Similar to R.A.V. is Reed. There, 135 S. Ct. at 2227, a signage ordinance was content-
based because it defined particular categories of signs by reference to whether the sign
communicated a particular message—for example, whether the sign discussed a book by John
Locke or favored voting for John Locke. As in R.A.V., the government was regulating a “non-
essential” aspect of speech, but in a way that referenced the “essential” content of the speech.
Compare id. with R.A.V., 505 U.S. at 385–86 (“The proposition that a particular instance of
speech can be proscribable on the basis of one feature (e.g., obscenity) but not on the basis of
another (e.g., opposition to the city government) is commonplace and has found application
in many contexts. We have long held, for example, that nonverbal expressive activity can be
banned because of the action it entails, but not because of the ideas it expresses—so that
burning a flag in violation of an ordinance against outdoor fires could be punishable, whereas
burning a flag in violation of an ordinance against dishonoring the flag is not. . . . The govern-
ment may not regulate [for example, a noisy truck] based on hostility—or favoritism—
towards the underlying message expressed.”).
       23 The fact that the law prohibits only threats against public officials or employees is
of no consequence. Content-based regulations are permissible “[w]hen the basis for the con-
tent discrimination consists entirely of the very reason the entire class of speech at issue is
proscribable.” Black, 538 U.S. at 361–62 (quoting R.A.V., 505 U.S. at 388). Thus, Louisiana
may regulate only unprotected speech, such as true threats, directed against public officials.
Such a regulation—picking out only certain kinds of true threats—does not involve drawing
lines based on protected speech and is based on the same rationale for denying true threats
any First Amendment protection. Cf. R.A.V., 505 U.S. at 388 (“[T]he Federal Government
can criminalize only those threats of violence that are directed against the President, see
18 U.S.C. § 871—since the reasons why threats of violence are outside the First Amendment
(protecting individuals from the fear of violence, from the disruption that fear engenders, and
from the possibility that the threatened violence will occur) have special force when applied
to the person of the President.” (citing Watts v. United States, 394 U.S. 705, 707 (1969))). But
Section 14:122 does not single out certain kinds of unprotected speech, raising an R.A.V. or a
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threats or extortion, Section 14:122 easily has at least some applications that
are constitutional. Cf. Stevens, 559 U.S. at 472–73; R.A.V., 505 U.S. at 384.
But again, that does not automatically ensure Section 14:122’s survival. As
noted above, the section also targets threats to take wholly lawful actions.
Thus we return to our starting point: whether Section 14:122 is unconstitu-
tionally overbroad. See Black, 538 U.S. at 363–66.

                                              C.
       Evaluating an overbreadth challenge requires exploring a statute’s con-
stitutional and unconstitutional applications. According to Louisiana, Sec-
tion 14:122 has no unconstitutional applications because it proscribes only
unprotected speech. To be sure, it covers a large swath of unprotected speech,
including true threats 24 and core criminal speech, such as extortion 25 and
threats to engage in truly defamatory speech made with actual malice. 26 But
the statute plainly reaches further. As explained above, Section 14:122 in-
cludes threats to sue an arresting officer or even to run against an incumbent
unless he votes for a favored bill. Cf. Mouton, 129 So. 3d at 54, 59.

       Such threats are constitutionally protected. The decision in NAACP v.
Claiborne Hardware Co., 458 U.S. 886 (1982), is instructive. There, a group of
black citizens demanded that public officials desegregate public schools and
hire black policeman lest the black community engage in boycotts of private

Black concern. The problem, as described above, is instead that Section 14:122 sweeps more
broadly than unprotected speech.
       24   See Black, 538 U.S. at 359–60.
       25 Core criminal speech such as extortion, bribery, or perjury has no First Amendment
protection. See United States v. Quinn, 514 F.2d 1250, 1268 (5th Cir. 1975) (extortion);
United States v. Irving, 509 F.2d 1325, 1331 n.5 (5th Cir. 1975) (extortion, blackmail, and
assault); United States v. Varani, 435 F.2d 758, 762 (6th Cir. 1970) (perjury, extortion, and
conspiracy); see also United States v. Sayer, 748 F.3d 425, 433–34 (1st Cir. 2014) (noting that
“[s]peech integral to criminal conduct” is unprotected speech).
       26   See New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 267–82 (1964).
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businesses; when their demands were not met, the boycotts began. Id. at 899–
900. Such speech was constitutionally protected even though obviously threat-
ening. Id. at 911–13. Moreover, a speech during the boycott contained strong
language referencing breaking necks and committing other acts of violence;
nevertheless, the Court found the speech protected. Id. at 927–29. Yet on its
face, Section 14:122 would criminalize all of that speech.

      Louisiana reminds us that a statute may be struck as overbroad only if
its overbreadth is “substantial, not only in an absolute sense, but also relative
to the statute’s plainly legitimate sweep.” Williams, 553 U.S. at 292. And the
state notes that overbreadth is “strong medicine that is not to be casually
employed.” Id. at 293 (citation and internal quotations omitted). We agree,
but here the statute sweeps so broadly, encompassing any number of
constitutionally protected threats, such as to boycott communities, to run
against incumbents, and to sue police officers. Hence, it is overbroad.

      A survey of analogous caselaw supports that conclusion.           In City of
Houston v. Hill, 482 U.S. 451, 455 (1987), the Court was faced with an ordin-
ance that criminalized assaulting, striking, or in any manner opposing, molest-
ing, abusing, or interrupting “any policeman in the execution of his duty.” The
ordinance prohibited any speech that interrupts police officers, thus extending
well beyond “core criminal conduct” or true threats. Id. at 460–63. Nor was
the ordinance “narrowly tailored to prohibit only disorderly conduct or fighting
words.” Id. at 465. Thus, the Court struck it as overbroad. Id. at 467.

      Similarly, in Wilson, 405 U.S. at 519, 528, the Court struck a Georgia
statute that prohibited any “opprobrious words or abusive language, tending
to cause a breach of the peace.” Georgia courts had not limited the statute to
fighting words or speech that would immediately cause violence; thus the law
swept in protected speech and was overbroad. Id. at 524–25. Finally, in Lewis

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v. City of New Orleans, 415 U.S. 130, 132 (1974), the Court was faced with a
Louisiana statute that penalized cursing or using “obscene or opprobrious
language toward or with reference to any member of the city police while in
the actual performance of his duty.” Again, the Court found overbreadth
because the statute extended beyond true threats or speech that would imme-
diately breach the peace. Id. at 133.

      Section 14:122 is at least as overbroad as the laws that were found to be
unconstitutional in those cases. It covers the kinds of constitutionally pro-
tected speech identified in Claiborne Hardware, 458 U.S. at 889—i.e., threats
to boycott unless policies are implemented and minorities are hired as police—
and much more. Section 14:122 could encompass an innocuous threat to com-
plain to a DMV manager for slow service or a serious threat to organize law-
suits and demonstrations unless the police lower their weapons. And each kind
of threat is constitutionally protected. “The freedom of individuals verbally to
oppose or challenge police action without thereby risking arrest is one of the
principal characteristics by which we distinguish a free nation from a police
state.” Hill, 482 U.S. at 462–63. Section 14:122 undermines that freedom and
thus is unconstitutional.

                                        D.
      Louisiana offers more replies but none with merit. We examine each.

                                        1.
      Louisiana claims that plaintiffs have failed to prove there have been
unconstitutional applications of Section 14:122 and that plaintiffs rely only on
hypotheticals and pure speculation.      But in the first place, plaintiffs cite
Mouton, 129 So. 3d at 54, 59, as evidence that the statute has been—and can
be—applied to a broad range of speech that has constitutional protection,

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including threats to sue police officers. And in the second place, Louisiana
demands too much. The Court has declared statutes overbroad even where the
government has never prosecuted—and promises it will never prosecute—
protected speech. See Stevens, 559 U.S. at 480. The First Amendment “does
not leave us at the mercy of noblesse oblige.” Id. The same appertains more so
here, given that Louisiana has already tried and convicted someone for
threatening to sue a police officer and get his job. See Mouton, 129 So. 3d
at 54, 59.

                                       2.
      The state contends that Section 14:122 is similar to statutes upheld in
CISPES (Committee in Solidarity with the People of El Salvador) v. F.B.I.,
770 F.2d 468 (5th Cir. 1985), and United States v. Hicks, 980 F.2d 963 (5th Cir.
1992). Both are easily distinguishable.

      In CISPES, 770 F.2d at 470 & n.2, 475, we upheld 18 U.S.C. § 112, which
in part criminalizes intimidating, coercing, threatening, or harassing a foreign
official in the performance of his duties. To be sure, that statute on its face
“prohibits such constitutionally protected activities such as picketing and dem-
onstrating.” Id. at 473. But, critically, we construed Section 112 to avoid such
constitutional problems, basing our reading on the statute’s safe harbor—
“nothing contained in this section shall be construed or applied so as to abridge
the exercise of rights guaranteed under the First Amendment”—along with the
legislative history and the government’s litigating position. Id. at 473–74.
Essentially, we interpreted it to apply only to unprotected speech. That read-
ing makes CISPES entirely different from the present case.            Unlike in
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Section 14:122. 27 Both its plain text and its administration by Louisiana’s
courts reveal its application to protected speech.

       Neither is Hicks availing.           There, defendants were convicted under
49 U.S.C. § 1472(j), 28 which provides criminal penalties against anyone who,
while on an aircraft, intimidates members of a flight crew so as to interfere
with its duties. We held it was not overbroad, but for reasons that cannot save
Section 14:122. See Hicks, 980 F.2d at 969–70. In the first place, the Hicks
defendants had pointed to no potential applications of Section 1472 that were
distinct from their own situation. Id. And as we explained, overbreadth chal-
lenges are not permitted where a party raises only situations that are “essen-
tially coterminous” with their own conduct. Id. Here, conversely, plaintiffs
raise numerous hypotheticals that are not coterminous with the conduct for
which they were arrested: threatening to report officials for dereliction of duty,
threatening to complain to supervisors at the DMV—the list goes on.

       Moreover, in Hicks, id. at 970, there was only a low risk that the statute
would transgress constitutional limitations. As we recognized, Section 1472
criminalized intimidation only on airplanes—a “special context of . . . pressur-
ized vessels routinely carrying hundreds of passengers and traveling at speeds
of up to 600 miles per hour and 40,000 feet above the ground.” Id. at 971–72.
Accordingly, even assuming the law was content-based or reached protected
speech, it withstood strict scrutiny. Id.; see also Petras, 879 F.3d at 167.


       27 See Terminiello, 337 U.S. at 5 (1949) (reasoning that state glosses on state statutes
are “conclusive on us”); Stevens, 559 U.S. at 481 (explaining that although courts may con-
strue statutes to avoid constitutional doubts, they may not “rewrite a . . . law to conform it to
constitutional requirements” (omission in original) (quoting Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. 844,
884–85 (1997))); see also Mouton, 129 So. 3d at 54, 59 (applying Section 14:122 to a threat to
sue a police officer and get his job).
       28 Section 1472 has been succeeded by 49 U.S.C. § 46504, which is materially similar
for constitutional purposes. See United States v. Petras, 879 F.3d 155, 160, 166–68 (5th Cir.
2018).
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      The same cannot be said for Section 14:122. The state has no interest in
preventing its citizens from threatening boycotts unless they are heard, rallies
until a politician resigns, or lawsuits if they are arrested. Cf. Claiborne Hard-
ware, 458 U.S. at 886, 889, 911–13. Although, as Louisiana maintains, the
state does have an interest in protecting its officers, 29 it cannot do so through
a law that simultaneously tramples the core First Amendment freedom “ver-
bally to oppose or challenge [state] action without thereby risking arrest.” Hill,
482 U.S. at 462–63. Because Section 14:122 does precisely that, it is uncon-
stitutionally overbroad.

                                           3.
      Louisiana maintains that Section 14:122 is a time, place, and manner
restriction. That assertion was not made before the district court, so it is
waived. See Martco Ltd. P’ship v. Wellons, Inc., 588 F.3d 864, 877 (5th Cir.
2009). Even if not waived, the theory is without merit.

      The state relies on Hicks, 980 F.2d at 971, which held that the airplane-
intimidation statute (Section 1472) was a time, place, and manner restriction.
But as we noted in Petras, 879 F.3d at 166 n.19, “[i]t is a close call whether
Hicks’s” time, place, and manner conclusion is still valid given cases like Reed.
The only reason why Section 1472 could still be considered a time, place, and
manner restriction is because it regulated any intimidation—defined as words
and conduct that place one in fear—that interferes with a flight crew’s duties.
Hicks, 980 F.2d at 965, 971–72.            As we explained in Petras, 879 F.3d
at 166 n.19, that may be a time, place, and manner restriction because any
combination of words and conduct may be intimidating on an airplane—the
word “intimidation,” so defined, may not have any content insofar as a


      29  Cf. CISPES, 770 F.2d at 474 (recognizing the “undeniably important governmental
interest of protecting foreign officials and visitors”).
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mountain (or someone shouting gibberish) might be “intimidating” in the sense
that it causes fear. But that analysis would not apply to laws that target
unprotected speech, such as true threats. As explained above, the fact that a
statute regulates true threats does not mean it is wholly content-neutral, but
only that it discriminates based on constitutionally unprotected content. See
R.A.V., 505 U.S. at 383–85; Black, 538 U.S. at 361–62. Therefore, it would be
improper to characterize such a statute as a time, place, and manner
restriction.

      A fortiori, Section 14:122 is not a time, place, and manner restriction.
And not only does it encompass unprotected content, it reaches far beyond
those constitutional limitations to target threats to complain to a school princi-
pal if one gets a bad grade, threats to run against an incumbent unless he votes
your way on a bill, or threats to call the media if the police point a gun at you.
Those kinds of threats are part of the core First Amendment rights “by which
we distinguish [our] free nation from a police state.” Hill, 482 U.S. at 462–63.
Thus, insofar as it criminalizes “threats,” Section 14:122 is unconstitutionally
overbroad.

      The judgment is AFFIRMED.




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