                                                                                  FILED
                                                                                October 22, 2015
                                                                                  Carla Bender
                                    2015 IL App (4th) 130990                   th
                                                                              4 District Appellate
                                                                                   Court, IL
                                          NO. 4-13-0990

                                 IN THE APPELLATE COURT

                                          OF ILLINOIS

                                       FOURTH DISTRICT

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS,                        )      Appeal from
           Plaintiff-Appellee,                              )      Circuit Court of
           v.                                               )      McLean County
CEDRIC HOBBS,                                               )      No. 12CF1220
           Defendant-Appellant.                             )
                                                            )      Honorable
                                                            )      Robert L. Freitag,
                                                            )      Judge Presiding.

               JUSTICE HOLDER WHITE delivered the judgment of the court, with opinion.
               Presiding Justice Pope and Justice Steigmann concurred in the judgment and
opinion.

                                            OPINION

¶1             In January 2013, defendant, Cedric Hobbs, entered an open plea to unlawful

possession of a controlled substance with the intent to deliver (720 ILCS 570/401(a)(2)(A) (West

2010)). In August 2013, the trial court sentenced defendant to 15 years' imprisonment, with

credit for 287 days served in custody, and ordered him to pay certain assessments. Defendant

filed a motion to reconsider the sentence, which the court denied. Defendant appeals, asserting

he is entitled to a remand for new postplea proceedings under Illinois Supreme Court Rule

604(d) (eff. Feb. 6, 2013), as trial counsel failed to certify he consulted with defendant regarding

defendant's contentions of error in both his sentence and his guilty plea. We agree and remand

for further proceedings.
¶2                                      I. BACKGROUND

¶3             In November 2012, a McLean county grand jury returned a bill of indictment

charging defendant with one count of unlawful possession of a controlled substance with the

intent to deliver, a Class X felony (count I) (720 ILCS 570/401(a)(2)(A) (West 2010)), and one

count of unlawful possession of a controlled substance, a Class 1 felony (count II) (720 ILCS

570/402(a)(2)(A) (West 2010)).

¶4             In July 2013, the trial court commenced a jury trial on both counts. In the midst

of the State's presentation of its case, defendant indicated his desire to enter an open plea to

count I. Outside the presence of the jury, the court accepted defendant's guilty plea. Count II

was eventually nol-prossed.

¶5             In August 2013, the trial court sentenced defendant to 15 years' imprisonment,

with credit for 287 days served in custody, and ordered him to pay certain assessments. Defense

counsel filed on defendant's behalf a motion to withdraw the plea or, in the alternative, to

reconsider the sentence.

¶6             In October 2013, the trial court held a hearing on defendant's motion. At the

hearing, defendant amended his motion, requesting the court to only reconsider the sentence.

Defense counsel offered the court a certificate averring compliance with Illinois Supreme Court

Rule 604(d) (eff. Feb. 6, 2013). The court requested defense counsel to complete the court's

form Rule 604(d) certificate, believing it better comported with the statutory language. (Defense

counsel's initial Rule 604(d) certificate is not contained in the record on appeal.)

¶7             Defense counsel completed the trial court's form Rule 604(d) certificate. The

certificate indicated defense counsel: (1) "consulted with the defendant *** in person to ascertain

                                                 -2-
defendant's contentions of error in the sentence or the entry of the plea of guilty" (Emphasis

added); (2) "examined the trial court file and the report of proceedings of the plea of guilty"; and

(3) "made any amendments to the motion necessary for adequate presentation of any defects in

those proceedings." The court accepted defense counsel's Rule 604(d) certificate. Following

argument, the court denied defendant's amended motion to reconsider the sentence.

¶8             This appeal followed.

¶9                                        II. ANALYSIS

¶ 10           On appeal, defendant asserts he is entitled to a remand for new postplea

proceedings under Rule 604(d), as trial counsel failed to certify he consulted with him regarding

his contentions of error in both his sentence and his guilty plea. Specifically, defendant contends

defense counsel's Rule 604(d) certificate, indicating he consulted with the defendant as to

"defendant's contentions of error in the sentence or the entry of the plea of guilty," fails to

comply with People v. Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 20, 5 N.E.3d 176. Defendant asserts,

pursuant to Tousignant and the purpose underlying Rule 604(d), "quoting the language of the

rule cannot be sufficient for strict compliance as this creates uncertainty as to whether counsel

actually did comply by consulting with a defendant on both requirements, or failed to comply by

just consulting with the defendant on the plea or the sentence." (Defendant's emphasis.)

¶ 11           In response, the State's brief contends "the takeaway from Tousignant is that 'or'

means 'and,' not that counsel must write 'and' instead of 'or.' " (Emphasis in original.) In

support, the State cites (1) the majority's explanation in Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 20, 5

N.E.3d 176, the word "or" is "considered to mean 'and,' "; and (2) Justice Thomas's special

concurrence in Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶¶ 26-27, 5 N.E.3d 176 (Thomas, J., specially

                                                 -3-
concurring), which pointed out reading "or" as "and" effectuated the intent of Rule 604(d) and

noted the rule should be amended to avoid confusion. The State further asserts its reading is

supported by the Second District's interpretation of Tousignant in People v. Mineau, 2014 IL

App (2d) 110666-B, ¶ 18, 19 N.E.3d 633, which found "[n]othing in [the supreme court's

opinion] demonstrates an intention to change the rule's literal language or to change what a

certificate must state." Therefore, the State avers no error occurred where defense counsel's Rule

604(d) certificate literally complied with Rule 604(d) as written.

¶ 12           As the issue presented raises questions of compliance with Illinois Supreme Court

rules, our review is de novo. People v. Neal, 403 Ill. App. 3d 757, 760, 936 N.E.2d 726, 728

(2010).

¶ 13                                      A. Rule 604(d)

¶ 14           Rule 604(d) provides, in relevant part:

               "No appeal from a judgment entered upon a plea of guilty shall be

               taken unless the defendant, within 30 days of the date on which

               sentence is imposed, files in the trial court a motion to reconsider

               the sentence, if only the sentence is being challenged, or, if the

               plea is being challenged, a motion to withdraw the plea of guilty

               and vacate the judgment. *** The defendant's attorney shall file

               with the trial court a certificate stating that the attorney [(1)] has

               consulted with the defendant [(a)] either by mail or in person [(b)]

               to ascertain defendant's contentions of error in the sentence or the

               entry of the plea of guilty, [(2)] has examined [(a)] the trial court

                                                 -4-
               file and [(b)] report of proceedings of the plea of guilty, and [(3)]

               has made any amendments to the motion necessary for adequate

               presentation of any defects in those proceedings. *** Upon appeal

               any issue not raised by the defendant in the motion to reconsider

               the sentence or withdraw the plea of guilty and vacate the

               judgment shall be deemed waived." Ill. S. Ct. R. 604(d) (eff. Feb.

               6, 2013).

¶ 15           B. Tousignant: In Order To Effectuate the Intent of Rule 604(d), Counsel Is

         Required To Certify He Consulted With Defendant "To Ascertain Defendant's

             Contentions of Error in the Sentence And the Entry of the Guilty Plea."

¶ 16           In Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 7, 5 N.E.3d 176, the supreme court considered

"whether Rule 604(d) requires counsel to certify that he consulted with the defendant regarding

defendant's contentions of error in the sentence and the guilty plea, or only regarding contentions

of error relevant to the defendant's post-plea motion." (Emphasis in original.)

¶ 17           In Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶¶ 3-4, 5 N.E.3d 176, the defendant filed a

motion to reconsider his sentence on an open guilty plea. On the same day, defense counsel filed

a Rule 604(d) certificate, alleging, in relevant part, he spoke with the defendant to ascertain his

" 'contentions of error in the sentence imposed.' " Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 4, 5 N.E.3d

176. Following a hearing, the trial court denied defendant's motion. Tousignant, 2014 IL

115329, ¶ 4, 5 N.E.3d 176. The defendant appealed. Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 4, 5 N.E.3d

176.

¶ 18           A divided panel of this court reversed and remanded, concluding defense

                                                -5-
counsel's certificate did not strictly comply with Rule 604(d), as it failed to demonstrate counsel

consulted with the defendant about possible errors in his guilty plea. Tousignant, 2014 IL

115329, ¶ 1, 5 N.E.3d 176; People v. Tousignant, 2012 IL App (4th) 120650-U, ¶ 13. The State

filed a petition for leave to appeal, which was granted. Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 1, 5

N.E.3d 176.

¶ 19            On appeal to the supreme court, the State argued the word "or" in Rule 604(d) is

disjunctive, requiring counsel to consult with a defendant only about contentions of error in the

motion that is filed. Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶¶ 9-10, 5 N.E.3d 176. The supreme court

rejected the State's argument that "or" is disjunctive in all circumstances, finding, when a literal

meaning is at variance with the purpose of a rule, the word "or" can be considered to mean

"and." See Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶¶ 11-12, 5 N.E.3d 176.

¶ 20           The supreme court summarized:

               "[A] main purpose of Rule 604(d) is to ensure that any improper

               conduct or other alleged improprieties that may have produced a

               guilty plea are brought to the trial court's attention before an appeal

               is taken, thus enabling the trial court to address them at a time

               when witnesses are still available and memories are fresh. Toward

               that end, the rule's certificate requirement is meant to enable the

               trial court to ensure that counsel has reviewed the defendant's

               claim and considered all relevant bases for the motion to withdraw

               the guilty plea or to reconsider the sentence." (Emphases in

               original.) Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 16, 5 N.E.3d 176.

                                                -6-
¶ 21           The supreme court found the State's literal reading of the word "or" at variance

with the rule's purpose. Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 18, 5 N.E.3d 176. It found the

disjunctive reading insisted on by the State blocked the goal of allowing trial courts to address

potential improprieties in the guilty plea before an appeal is taken. Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329,

¶ 18, 5 N.E.3d 176. The court offered the following hypothetical to illustrate how the State's

disjunctive reading could frustrate the rule's ultimate purpose of eliminating needless trips to the

appellate court:

               "If, for example, counsel certifies that he has consulted with the

               defendant only about defendant's contentions of error regarding the

               sentence, the possibility remains that the defendant might have had

               contentions of error about the guilty plea but failed to mention

               them. At a minimum, counsel's certificate, indicating he consulted

               with defendant only about contentions of error in the sentence,

               would fall short of assuring the trial court that counsel had

               reviewed the defendant's claim and considered all relevant bases

               for the post-plea motion. Worse still is the possibility that

               defendant actually had concerns about the guilty plea which were

               not discussed with counsel, and were omitted from the motion.

               Such a result would run directly counter to the rule's purpose of

               enabling the trial court to immediately correct, before an appeal is

               taken, any improprieties that might have produced the guilty plea."



                                                -7-
              (Emphasis in original.) Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 18, 5

              N.E.3d 176.

¶ 22           The supreme court found interpreting "or" in the clause of the rule as "and"

would further the rule's purpose. Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 18, 5 N.E.3d 176. Interpreting

the language as such,

              "counsel would have been required to certify that he consulted

              with defendant about contentions of error in both the sentence and

              the guilty plea, which would more likely enable the trial court to

              ensure that counsel had reviewed the defendant's claim and

              considered all relevant bases for the post-plea motion. More

              important, counsel's certifying that he consulted with the defendant

              about both types of error would make it more likely, rather than

              less likely, that all of the contentions of error were included in the

              post-plea motion, enabling the trial court to address and correct

              any improper conduct or errors of the trial court that may have

              produced the guilty plea." (Emphases in original.) Tousignant,

              2014 IL 115329, ¶ 19, 5 N.E.3d 176.

¶ 23          Rejecting the State's literal, disjunctive reading of Rule 604(d) as contrary to the

rule's purpose, our supreme court concluded as follows:

              "We hold that in order to effectuate the intent of Rule 604(d),

              specifically the language requiring counsel to certify that he has

              consulted with the defendant 'to ascertain defendant's contentions

                                               -8-
               of error in the sentence or the entry of the plea of guilty,' the word

               'or' is considered to mean 'and.' Under this reading, counsel is

               required to certify that he has consulted with the defendant 'to

               ascertain defendant's contentions of error in the sentence and the

               entry of the plea of guilty.' " (Emphases in original.) Tousignant,

               2014 IL 115329, ¶ 20, 5 N.E.3d 176.

Therefore, the supreme court affirmed this court's reversal, finding defense counsel did not

strictly comply with Rule 604(d). Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶¶ 23-24, 5 N.E.3d 176.

¶ 24           In a special concurrence, Justice Thomas suggested Rule 604(d) "be amended to

more accurately reflect [the] court's intent." Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 27, 5 N.E.3d 176

(Thomas, J., specially concurring). Justice Thomas warned failure to amend the rule will cause

confusion and uncertainty as to which attorneys are complying and which are not. Tousignant,

2014 IL 115329, ¶ 27, 5 N.E.3d 176 (Thomas, J., specially concurring). In support, Justice

Thomas offered the following scenarios:

               "Consider Attorney A, who conscientiously consults with the

               defendant about both his guilty plea and sentence, determines that

               defendant wants to raise issues concerning his sentence only, and

               certifies that he consulted with the defendant about his contentions

               of error in his sentence. Now consider Attorney B, who consults

               with the defendant about his sentence only, and certifies, truthfully,

               that he consulted with the defendant about his contentions of error

               in the plea or sentence. A court will reverse and remand in the first

                                                -9-
               case and not the second, even though, unbeknownst to the court, it

               is Attorney B who clearly has not fulfilled his obligation."

               Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 27, 5 N.E.3d 176 (Thomas, J.,

               specially concurring).

Justice Thomas concluded, "While certainly today's opinion will clear up some of the confusion,

I believe that the rule should be amended so that this court can have complete confidence that

attorneys are complying with the rule." Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 27, 5 N.E.3d 176

(Thomas, J., specially concurring).

¶ 25           In a dissent, Justice Karmeier, with Justices Kilbride and Theis joining, agreed

with Justice Thomas' special concurrence as to the confusion the majority's opinion will cause

without an amendment to the rule. Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 47, 5 N.E.3d 176 (Karmeier,

J., dissenting, joined by Kilbride and Theis, JJ.). According to Justice Karmeier:

               "What the majority is actually saying is that the rule should be read

               as follows:

                             'The defendant's attorney shall file with the trial court

                      a certificate stating that the attorney [(1)] has consulted

                      with the defendant [(a)] either by mail or in person [(b)] to

                      ascertain defendant's contentions of error, and to discuss

                      any other errors, in both the sentence and the entry of the

                      plea of guilty, [(2)] has examined the [(a)] trial court file

                      and [(b)] report of proceedings of the [(i)] plea of guilty

                      [(ii)] and sentencing, and [(3)] has made any amendments

                                               - 10 -
                       to the motion necessary for adequate presentation of any

                       defects in those proceedings.' " (Emphases in original.)

                       Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 49, 5 N.E.3d 176

                       (Karmeier, J., dissenting, joined by Kilbride and Theis, JJ.).

Justice Karmeier concluded, "I am not opposed to changing Rule 604(d), but we should do so

prospectively and only after the open deliberative process usually followed by this court in

making rule changes." Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 49, 5 N.E.3d 176 (Karmeier, J.,

dissenting, joined by Kilbride and Theis, JJ.).

¶ 26                                         C. Mineau

¶ 27           In Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶¶ 17-19, 19 N.E.3d 633, the Second

District considered, in relevant part, the impact of Tousignant on defense counsel's Rule 604(d)

certificate.

¶ 28           In Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶ 4, 19 N.E.3d 633, the defendant filed a

motion to withdraw the guilty plea or, alternatively, to reconsider the sentence. Defense counsel

filed a Rule 604(d) certificate alleging, in relevant part, he contacted the defendant to ascertain

his " 'contentions of error in the sentence or the entry of the plea of guilty.' " (Emphasis added.)

Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶ 4, 19 N.E.3d 633. Following a hearing, the trial court

denied the defendant's motion. Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶ 5, 19 N.E.3d 633. The

defendant appealed, alleging, in relevant part, defense counsel's Rule 604(d) certificate was

defective because it used the disjunctive "or." Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶ 6, 19

N.E.3d 633.



                                                  - 11 -
¶ 29           In its initial disposition, the Second District affirmed, holding, in relevant part,

defense counsel's certificate was sufficient as the language comported with the rule's text.

People v. Mineau, 2012 IL App (2d) 110666, ¶¶ 15-16, 1 N.E.3d 1. Subsequently, the supreme

court directed the Second District to vacate its disposition and reconsider in light of Tousignant.

Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶ 7, 19 N.E.3d 633; People v. Mineau, No. 115324, 22

N.E.3d 1160 (Ill. May 28, 2014) (nonprecedential supervisory order on denial of leave to

appeal). After doing so, the Second District concluded Tousignant did not dictate a different

result. Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶ 7, 19 N.E.3d 633. It found as follows:

                       "Given that 'or' in the rule means 'and,' counsel's certificate

               here literally complies. Nothing in Tousignant demonstrates an

               intention to change the rule's literal language or to change what a

               certificate must state. Further, we note that, given that counsel

               filed on defendant's behalf a motion to withdraw the plea or, in the

               alternative, to reconsider the sentence, it is reasonable to infer that

               counsel consulted with defendant about both types of error.

                       We note that, in his special concurrence in Tousignant,

               Justice Thomas anticipated this situation, pointing out that literal

               compliance could lead to uncertainty as to whether counsel

               consulted with his or her client about both types of error.

               However, he implicitly found that using 'or' complies with the rule

               as presently written. [Citation.]" Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d)

               110666-B, ¶¶ 18-19, 19 N.E.3d 633.

                                                - 12 -
¶ 30           In a special concurrence, Justice Jorgensen advised it would be better practice for

counsel to use "and," rather than "or," to certify he or she has consulted with the defendant as to

his or her plea and sentencing. Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶¶ 23-26, 19 N.E.3d 633

(Jorgensen, J., specially concurring). By doing so, "courts would not need to assume that, when

counsel wrote 'or,' he or she meant 'and,' and the scope of counsel's consultation would not need

illumination by collateral sources, such as the motion." Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B,

¶ 24, 19 N.E.3d 633 (Jorgensen, J., specially concurring).

¶ 31                       D. Defense Counsel's Rule 604(d) Certificate

¶ 32           Here, defense counsel filed on defendant's behalf a motion to withdraw the plea

or, in the alternative, to reconsider the sentence. Thereafter, defendant amended his motion,

requesting the court to only reconsider his sentence.

¶ 33           Defense counsel completed the trial court's form Rule 604(d) certificate, which

the court accepted. The Rule 604(d) certificate stated, in relevant part, "I have consulted with the

defendant *** to ascertain defendant's contentions of error in the sentence or the entry of the plea

of guilty." (Emphasis added.) We find, in light of the supreme court's decision in Tousignant,

2014 IL 115329, ¶ 19, 5 N.E.3d 176, and the purpose of Rule 604(d), the court's acceptance of

defense counsel's Rule 604(d) certificate was in error. The certificate, although in literal

compliance with the language of Rule 604(d), does not afford defendant the protections the rule

intends or fulfill its purpose of avoiding needless trips to the appellate court.

¶ 34           In Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 20, 5 N.E.3d 176, the supreme court held, to

effectuate the intent of Rule 604(d), the word "or" must be "considered to mean 'and.' " The

State asserts this indicates courts are to read "or" as "and" when reviewing counsel's Rule 604(d)

                                                - 13 -
certificate, and not that counsel must write "and" instead of "or." The State's interpretation fails

to consider the sentence that follows in Tousignant, which we emphasize here:

               "Under this reading, counsel is required to certify that he has

               consulted with the defendant 'to ascertain defendant's contentions

               of error in the sentence and the entry of the plea of guilty.' "

               (Emphasis in original.) Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 20, 5

               N.E.3d 176.

The court quoted the language of Rule 604(d), removed the word "or," and inserted the word

"and." We find the plain language of this sentence indicates a clear intention of the supreme

court to require defense counsel to certify he or she has discussed with a defendant his or her

contentions of error in the sentence and the entry of the plea of guilty.

¶ 35           Further, the State's position is at variance with the rule's purpose. "[T]he rule's

certificate requirement is meant to enable the trial court to ensure that counsel has reviewed the

defendant's claim and considered all relevant bases for the motion to withdraw the guilty plea or

to reconsider the sentence." (Emphasis in original.) Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 16, 5 N.E.3d

176. A certificate indicating counsel has consulted with a defendant regarding his or her

contentions of error in the sentence or the entry of the plea of guilty does not ensure counsel has

consulted with the defendant regarding "all relevant bases" for the motion, as counsel may have

consulted with the defendant about contentions of error in only (1) the sentence or (2) the entry

of the guilty plea. Accepting the State's interpretation would leave open the possibility a

defendant in fact had concerns about his guilty plea or sentence that were not discussed with

counsel and omitted from a postplea motion. See Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 18, 5 N.E.3d

                                                - 14 -
176. Under the State's reading, the certificate's purpose is undermined. A Rule 604(d) certificate

would act as a mere procedural checkpoint rather than as a tool to protect a defendant's

constitutional rights and eliminate needless trips to the appellate court. See People v. Janes, 158

Ill. 2d 27, 35, 630 N.E.2d 790, 793 (1994).

¶ 36           Requiring defense counsel to certify he or she has consulted with a defendant to

ascertain defendant's contentions of error in the sentence and the entry of the plea of guilty

"would make it more likely, rather than less likely, that all of the contentions of error were

included in the post-plea motion, enabling the trial court to address and correct any improper

conduct or errors of the trial court." Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 19, 5 N.E.3d 176. Requiring

such furthers the purpose of Rule 604(d). Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶¶ 19-20, 5 N.E.3d 176.

¶ 37           This holding necessarily disavows the Second District's decision in Mineau, 2014

IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶ 16, 19 N.E.3d 633, on this particular issue. We disagree with the

assertion in Mineau, "[n]othing in Tousignant demonstrates an intention to change the rule's

literal language or to change what a certificate must state." People v. Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d)

110666-B, ¶ 18, 19 N.E.3d 633. Rather, we conclude, "the supreme court did indicate its intent

to change what a Rule 604(d) certificate must state when it declared counsel is required to certify

that he has consulted with the defendant to ascertain defendant's contentions of error in the

sentence and the entry of the plea of guilty." (Emphasis in original and internal quotation marks

omitted.) People v. Mason, 2015 IL App (4th) 130946, ¶ 13, 37 N.E.3d 927.

¶ 38           In Mineau, the Second District further noted, "given that counsel filed on

defendant's behalf a motion to withdraw the plea or, in the alternative, to reconsider the sentence,

it is reasonable to infer that counsel consulted with defendant about both types of error."

                                               - 15 -
Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶ 18, 19 N.E.3d 633. Justice Jorgensen, in her special

concurrence, advised it would be better practice for counsel to use "and," rather than "or," as

"courts would not need to assume that, when counsel wrote 'or,' he or she meant 'and,' and the

scope of counsel's consultation would not need illumination by collateral sources, such as the

motion." Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶ 24, 19 N.E.3d 633 (Jorgensen, J., specially

concurring). We have consistently held "the certificate itself is all that this court will consider to

determine compliance with Rule 604(d)." People v. Grice, 371 Ill. App. 3d 813, 816, 867

N.E.2d 1143, 1146 (2007). We decline to comb the record to determine whether an inference

may be drawn as to whether defense counsel has complied with the rule.

¶ 39           We further note the last sentence of Illinois Supreme Court Rule 604(d) (eff. Feb.

6, 2013) states: "Upon appeal any issue not raised by the defendant in the motion to reconsider

the sentence or withdraw the plea of guilty and vacate the judgment shall be deemed

waived[, i.e., procedurally defaulted]." This is defendant's one opportunity, short of the hurdles

of postconviction proceedings, to bring any allegations of error to the trial court's attention. We

conclude the supreme court intends that opportunity to not only be meaningful, but also one that

fully informs the trial court of any alleged error.

¶ 40           Finally, we find the reliance in Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶ 19, 19

N.E.3d 633, on Justice Thomas's special concurrence in Tousignant unpersuasive. The court

cited Justice Thomas's warning that without amendment, confusion may result as to whether

counsel consulted with his or her client about both types of error. The court held Justice

Thomas's concurrence "implicitly found that using 'or' complies with the rule as presently

written." Mineau, 2014 IL App (2d) 110666-B, ¶ 19, 19 N.E.3d 633. Justice Thomas, after

                                                - 16 -
concurring in the majority's opinion, suggested Rule 604(d) "be amended to more accurately

reflect [the] court's intent." Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329, ¶ 27, 5 N.E.3d 176 (Thomas, J.,

specially concurring). Justice Thomas concluded, "While certainly today's opinion will clear up

some of the confusion, I believe that the rule should be amended so that this court can have

complete confidence that attorneys are complying with the rule." Tousignant, 2014 IL 115329,

¶ 27, 5 N.E.3d 176 (Thomas, J., specially concurring). Based on the explicit wording of the

majority's opinion and the purpose of Rule 604(d), we decline to rely on an implicit statement

contained in Justice Thomas's concurrence to find defense counsel complied with Rule 604(d).

¶ 41           We are mindful that we are not tasked with changing supreme court rules.

However, we are bound by the supreme court's interpretation of those rules. Although the

supreme court has yet to amend its rule in accordance with its decision in Tousignant, we must

follow its interpretation mandating defense counsel certify he or she has consulted with a

defendant regarding the defendant's contentions of error in the sentence and the entry of the plea

of guilty.

¶ 42                                   IV. CONCLUSION

¶ 43           For the reasons stated, we reverse the trial court's judgment regarding Rule 604(d)

compliance and remand for (1) the opportunity to file a new motion to withdraw the guilty plea

and/or reconsider the sentence, if counsel concludes that a new motion is necessary; (2) a new

hearing on defendant's postplea motion; and (3) the filing of a Rule 604(d) certificate in

compliance with the supreme court's interpretation of the rule in Tousignant.

¶ 44           Reversed; cause remanded with directions.



                                               - 17 -
