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APPELLANT, PRO SE:                                   APPELLEE, PRO SE:

JOHN S. DILLMAN, JR.                                 MICHELLE DILLMAN
Gladwin, Michigan                                    Section, Alabama




                               IN THE
                     COURT OF APPEALS OF INDIANA

JOHN S. DILLMAN, JR.,                                )
                                                     )
       Appellant-Respondent,                         )
                                                     )
               vs.                                   )    No. 45A03-1209-DR-388
                                                     )
MICHELLE DILLMAN,                                    )
                                                     )
       Appellee-Petitioner.                          )


                       APPEAL FROM THE LAKE SUPERIOR COURT
                          The Honorable Elizabeth F. Tavitas, Judge
                              Cause No. 45D03-0204-DR-1322


                                           July 9, 2013

                MEMORANDUM DECISION - NOT FOR PUBLICATION

PYLE, Judge
                                  STATEMENT OF THE CASE

        D.D. (“Father”) appeals the trial court’s order denying his petition to modify

custody of his minor child, V.R.D.

        We affirm.

                                               ISSUES

        The following issue is dispositive: Whether the trial court abused its
        discretion in denying Father’s petition to modify custody.

                           FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY

        Father and M.D. (“Mother”) are the parents of V.R.D., who was born to the

parents in 2001.1 Father and Mother’s marriage was dissolved on December 16, 2004.

Mother was awarded sole physical custody of V.R.D. and Father was awarded visitation

rights. At some point in 2009, Mother alerted Father that she was planning to move to

Alabama, a move that the trial court ultimately approved. Father subsequently moved to

Michigan, where he shares a house with his new wife and her three children.

        On July 2, 2012, Father filed his petition to modify custody. In the petition, he

alleged certain changes in the circumstances that existed at the time Mother was awarded

custody. Among other things, Father alleged that (1) V.R.D. was now eleven years old;

(2) Father wanted V.R.D. to live with him; (3) V.R.D. wanted to live with Father; (4)

Mother had interfered with Father’s relationship with V.R.D.; (5) Mother treated V.R.D.

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   Both Father and Mother represented themselves at the custody hearing, and they also represent
themselves on appeal. Although the record is devoid of some salient information, we are able to construct
the procedural history from the trial court’s chronological case summary. We are also able to review the
trial court’s custody determination by reviewing the court’s order and the transcript of the modification
hearing.
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as a friend rather than a child; (6) Mother had sent inappropriate texts to V.R.D; (7)

Mother had failed to set up Skype as ordered by the trial court; and (8) Mother had failed

to obtain needed medical and dental care for V.R.D.

       On August 6, 2012, the trial court held a hearing on Father’s petition to change

custody. As noted above, both Father and Mother represented themselves at the hearing,

and the hearing consisted primarily of “he said, she said” accusations. Father had a

counselor testify by telephone, and the counselor indicated that she could not say

“whether the relationship [between Mother and V.R.D.] is healthy or not, but [a one-time

exchange of texts containing profanity] was not healthy.” (Tr. 29-30). When asked by

Father whether she was concerned about V.R.D.’s “living situation in Alabama,” the

counselor responded, “I don’t really know . . . My concern would be is if there was a

pattern of, you know, what I read [the texts containing profanity], you know, but I don’t

see there’s a pattern.” (Tr. 33). The counselor indicated that V.R.D. had indicated

interest in living in Michigan with Father. However, on cross-examination the counselor

limited this observation by saying that V.R.D. was “kind of feeling like back and forth”

about where she wanted to live. (Tr. 34).

       Mother testified that the text containing profanity was accidently received by

V.R.D. as part of a group message to adults. Mother also testified that other texts

contained inside jokes that Father did not understand and interpreted unfairly. Mother

further testified that she set up Skype, but Father was unable to get it to work on his end.

Mother testified that she was unable to provide some medical and dental care to V.R.D.

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because Father had not provided insurance information that allowed her to pay for

treatment. Mother acknowledged that V.R.D. had sent a text to her that depicted a Care

Bear with a marijuana leaf on its chest. Mother stated that afterwards she had explained

the nature of the leaf to V.R.D. and had told her that it was inappropriate.

       At the conclusion of the hearing, the trial court outlined for Father and Mother

how any communication or insurance payment problems could be fixed. The trial court

then concentrated its remarks on the relationship between Father and Mother as it

affected V.R.D. and made the following advisory statements to Father and Mother:

       [Father], [y]ou don’t have nearly enough evidence for me to consider a possible
       change of custody.

       ****

       But here’s what I want the two of you to tell [V.R.D.]. I want the two of
       you to tell her that the hearing went really well. And that the two of you
       now have a better idea of what mom and dad’s problems are. And that it’s
       not [V.R.D.’s] problem at all. [V.R.D.] didn’t have [anything] to do with
       any of it. And that the two of you are going to figure out how to deal with
       it. So, we’re going to take all the stress off of [V.R.D.]. That’s what I want
       you to tell her. Because that’s what we’re going to work on.

       ****

       Any communication between mom and dad, I don’t want any derogatory
       statements. I don’t want any name calling. You don’t like that person, I
       don’t really care. I don’t want to see it in your texts or your emails or your
       communication.

       You treat each other like you never slept together. Like maybe you work
       with this person and that’s how you know her or know him. Sometimes we
       treat complete strangers with more respect than we do with people we had
       previously been married to and I don’t understand that either. I will not
       tolerate it. So, that’s going to be your motto. Would I send this text to

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       someone I work with. And in your mind you say, no, I probably wouldn’t.
       Then it’s a best bet that you better not do it now.

       Any texts that dad sends to mom I’ll see. Any texts, mom, that you send to
       dad, I’m going to see. You’re smart people. Use your common sense
       because if I see it again, I’m going to slam you. I really, really am. You
       guys are messing up [V.R.D.] and that bothers me the most.

(Tr. 107-114).

       The trial court subsequently issued an order in which it stated that “Father has

failed to satisfy his burden of proof that modification of custody is in the best interest of

the child and that there has been a substantial change in one or more of the factors that

the court may consider under I.C. § 31-17-2-8.” (App. 24). The order further addressed

Father’s request that the trial court conduct an in camera interview with the child. The

order denied the request and emphasized that V.R.D. was only eleven years old and that

the counselor’s testimony did not provide any reason to suggest that an in camera

interview was necessary or in V.R.D.’s best interest.

       Father now appeals.

                                 DISCUSSION AND DECISION

       Father contends that the trial court abused its discretion by denying his petition to

modify custody of V.R.D. When reviewing a custody determination, we afford the trial

court considerable deference as it is the trial court that observes the parties’ conduct and

demeanor and hears their testimony. Kondamuri v. Kondamuri, 852 N.E.2d 939, 945-46

(Ind. Ct. App. 2006). We review custody modifications for an abuse of discretion “with a

preference for granting latitude and deference to our trial judges in family law matters.”

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Werner v. Werner, 946 N.E.2d 1233, 1244 (Ind. Ct. App. 2011), trans. denied. We will

not reweigh the evidence, judge the credibility of the witnesses, or substitute our

judgment for that of the trial court. Kondamuri, 852 N.E.2d at 946. Rather, we reverse

the trial court’s custody determination based only upon a trial court’s abuse of discretion

that is clearly against the logic and effect of the facts and circumstances or the reasonable

inferences drawn therefrom. Id. It is not enough that the evidence might support some

other conclusion. Kirk v. Kirk, 770 N.E.2d 304, 307 (Ind. 2002). Reversal of the trial

court’s order occurs only when the evidence positively requires the conclusion advocated

by the appellant. Id.

       Custody modifications are dictated by Indiana Code § 31-17-2-21, which provides

that a child custody order may not be modified unless modification is in the best interests

of the child and there is a substantial change of circumstances in one or more of the

factors that a trial court may consider under Indiana Code § 31-17-2-8. These statutory

factors are:

       (1)     The age and sex of the child.

       (2)     The wishes of the child’s parent or parents.

       (3)      The wishes of the child, with more consideration given to the
               child’s wishes if the child is at least fourteen (14) years of age.

       (4)     The interaction and interrelationship of the child with:

               (A)      the child’s parent or parents;

               (B)      the child’s sibling; and


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                (C)     any other person who may significantly affect the child’s best
                        interests.

        (5)     The child’s adjustment to the child’s:

                (A)     home;

                (B)     school, and

                (C)     community.

        (6)     The mental and physical health of all individuals involved.

        Because Father filed the petition to modify child custody, he carries the burden of

establishing circumstances so substantial and continuous as to make the terms of the

original child support determination unreasonable.                MacLafferty v. MacLafferty, 829

N.E.2d 938, 940 (Ind. 2005).

        Here, Father presented evidence that he was now amenable to exercising physical

custody over eleven-year-old V.R.D. On the other hand, Mother had been exercising

custody and was continuing to do so. Father’s key witness, the counselor, testified that

V.R.D. was conflicted as to where she wanted to live. 2 Although Father presented

evidence that could be interpreted as Mother’s inappropriate treatment of V.R.D. as an

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  Father requested that the trial court conduct an in camera interview of V.R.D. to determine where she
wanted to live. The trial court exercised its discretion in determining not to conduct an in camera
interview of V.R.D. In doing so, the trial court explained that “[u]nder our statute I only consider
fourteen years old and older.” (Tr. 107). Father emphasizes that the statute does not prohibit a trial court
judge from interviewing children who are younger than fourteen, which is true. However, the trial court’s
determination is based on more than V.R.D.’s age. The court stated, “You don’t have enough evidence to
modify custody, even if the child said it . . . . You don’t have nearly enough evidence for me even to
consider a possible change of custody.” Id. Furthermore, V.R.D. was not physically available for such an
interview; she was “at home.” (Tr. 109).



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adult instead of a child, the counselor could not verify that this behavior was common.

Indeed, Mother testified that it was not common. Furthermore, Mother introduced into

evidence a letter from the principal of V.R.D.’s school that described V.R.D. as “well

adjusted,” and Mother as “very helpful to the school faculty and staff members as well as

supportive of [V.R.D.] as a student here.” (Mother’s Ex. A). Mother also introduced a

report card showing that V.R.D. was doing well in school.3

        Under the evidence presented at the hearing on Father’s petition to change

custody, we cannot say that the trial court abused its discretion in determining that Father

failed to establish a substantial change of circumstances as to make the terms of the

original child custody determination unreasonable. Thus, we affirm the trial court’s

denial of Father’s petition to modify custody of V.R.D. In doing so, we join the trial

court in urging Father and Mother to work together in V.R.D.’s best interest.

        Affirmed.

KIRSCH, J., and VAIDIK, J., concur.




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 The trial court did not specifically make findings regarding the factors enumerated in Ind. Code § 31-17-
2-8. Although we were not hindered in our review, it would have been better practice to make findings
consonant with the aforementioned factors.
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