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                              UNITED STATES COURTS OF APPEALS
                                                 FOR THE SIXTH CIRCUIT
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 SYED SHAHID AHMED (03-3374), BILQIS SHAHID
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 (03-3375), SYED FERAZ AHMED (03-3376), and SYED
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 SHERAZ AHMED (03-3377),
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 ALBERTO GONZALES, Attorney General of the United

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 States,
                               Respondent-Appellee.

                    On Petition for Review of a Decision of the Board of Immigration Appeals.
                          Nos. A77 432 187; A77 432 188; A77 432 189; A77 432 190.
                                                  Argued: October 14, 2004
                                           Decided and Filed: January 25, 2005*
                     Before: NELSON and COLE, Circuit Judges; SARGUS, District Judge.**
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                                                            COUNSEL
ARGUED: Marquette D. Evans, BROWN, LIPPERT, HEILE & EVANS, Cincinnati, Ohio, for Petitioner.
Russell J.E. Verby, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, OFFICE OF IMMIGRATION LITIGATION,
Washington, D.C., for Respondent. ON BRIEF: Marquette D. Evans, BROWN, LIPPERT, HEILE &
EVANS, Cincinnati, Ohio, for Petitioner. Russell J.E. Verby, Ernesto H. Molina, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE, OFFICE OF IMMIGRATION LITIGATION, Washington, D.C., for Respondent.
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                                                          OPINION
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        R. GUY COLE, JR., Circuit Judge. This appeal presents the case of a Pakistani family (“the
Ahmeds”) whose application for asylum was denied by an immigration judge. Because we find that the
judge’s persistent mischaracterization of the Ahmeds’ testimony biased his decision against them as to both
their credibility and their claims of past and likely future persecution, we GRANT the petition for review,


    *
     This decision was originally issued as an “unpublished decision” filed on January 25, 2005. The Court has now designated
the opinion as one recommended for full-text publication.
    **
         The Honorable Edmund A. Sargus, Jr., United States District Judge for the Southern District of Ohio, sitting by designation.


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Nos. 03-3374/3375/3376/3377                          Ahmed, et al. v. Gonzales                                     Page 2


VACATE the decision of the Board of Immigration Appeals affirming the immigration judge’s decision,
and REMAND for a new hearing before a different immigration judge.
                                                            I.
        All of the members of the Ahmed family are citizens of Pakistan and members of the Urdu ethnic
minority (“Mohajirs”) that migrated to Pakistan following the 1947 partition of India and Pakistan. They
argue that they were persecuted in Pakistan on the basis of their ethnicity and their political affiliation with
the MQM-Altaf, a political party that represents Mohajirs.
         The Ahmed family claims that members of the Sindh ethnic majority repeatedly came to their home
and business with false documents, claimed ownership of the property, and illegally occupied it. The police
provided little help on these occasions, although on occasion the police removed the trespassers and put
them in jail for a single night before freeing them. More often, the Ahmed family had to remove the
trespassers with the aid of neighbors. The police would frequently solicit bribes from the Ahmed family
as a condition to providing assistance. After a series of alleged threats against the Ahmeds’ lives, including
threatening telephone calls and an allegedly politically-motivated attack on their cousin, the Ahmeds allege
that some Sindhi occupied their property and bulldozed the Ahmeds’ home and place of work. They claim
the police took no action while the Ahmeds were persecuted on the basis of their ethnicity and political
affiliations.
        The Ahmeds came to the United States in November of 1998 in order to get medical treatment for
Syed Feraz Ahmed, one of Mr. Ahmed’s sons, who had a serious eye condition. On February 9, 1999 they
filed an application for asylum and withholding of removal. An immigration judge heard their case on
December 6, 2001. At the hearing, the judge appears to have frequently misunderstood the Ahmeds’
testimony, becoming especially confused during the testimony of Mrs. Ahmed, who goes by the name Bilqis
Shahid.
       The judge denied the Ahmed’s application, finding that Shahid’s lack of credibility had destroyed
“the credibility, basically of everything else that these people have presented.” The BIA affirmed the
judge’s decision without opinion on Feb. 10, 2003. See In re Ahmed, Syed Shahid, File A77-432-187 (BIA
Order of Feb. 10, 2003).
       The Ahmeds now appeal the decision to deny their asylum application, on the grounds that they were
denied due process in their hearing before the Immigration Judge.1
                                                           II.
        While we generally review BIA decisions under the “compelling evidence” standard from Klawitter
v. INS, 970 F.2d 149, 152 (6th Cir. 1992), we review decisions by immigration judges on matters of removal
for Fifth Amendment due process violations de novo. Castellano-Chacon v. INS, 341 F.3d 533, 552-53 (6th
Cir. 2003). It is undisputed that petitioners in such proceedings are entitled to an unbiased arbiter who has
not prejudged their claims. See, e.g., Kaoru Yamataya v. Fisher (a.k.a. Japanese Immigrant Case), 189 U.S.
86, 101 (1903) (stating that no person, even an alien, “shall be deprived of his liberty without opportunity,
at some time, to be heard . . . in respect of the matters upon which that liberty depends”); Reno v. Flores,
507 U.S. 292, 306 (1993) (holding that Fifth Amendment protections apply to aliens in deportation
proceedings); Huicochea-Gomez v. INS, 237 F.3d 696, 699 (6th Cir. 2001) (noting that the Fifth Amendment
guarantees immigration defendants a “full and fair hearing”); Mikhailevitch v. INS, 146 F.3d 384, 391 (6th
Cir. 1998). However, we note that immigration judges do have broad discretion in conducting their
hearings, Mikhailevitch, 146 F.3d at 391, and that mere intimidation or interruption by a judge does not

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     The Ahmeds also applied for voluntary departure in the event that the Immigration Judge denied their application; this
request was also denied but the Ahmeds do not appeal that decision here.
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render a hearing unfair. Ivezaj v. INS, 84 F.3d 215, 220 (6th Cir. 1996) (“[Even if there were evidence that
the immigration judge was overly abrupt or intimidating, petitioner has no right not to have [his] feelings
hurt by a no nonsense immigration judge.”), superseded by statute on other grounds as stated in Ramani
v. Ashcroft, 378 F.3d 554, 560 (6th Cir. 2004). Despite this, it should also be noted that “the administrative
findings of fact [of an immigration judge] are conclusive unless any reasonable adjudicator would be
compelled to find to the contrary.” 8 U.S.C. § 1252(b)(4)(B); see also INS v. Elias-Zacarias, 502 U.S. 478,
481 (1992). Therefore, ensuring due process at a hearing before an immigration judge may be particularly
important in immigration cases given such a high presumption of correctness on appeal.
          Like other hearings regarding deprivations of liberty interests, immigration hearings “need not be
upon a regular, set occasion, and according to the forms of judicial procedure, but one that will secure
prompt, vigorous action contemplated by Congress, and at the same time be appropriate to the nature of the
case . . . .” Mikhailevitch, 146 F.3d at 391 (citations omitted). However, due process for an alien in an INS
proceeding consists of at least “a reasonable opportunity to examine the evidence against him, to present
evidence on his own behalf, and to cross-examine witnesses presented by the Government,” id. (statutory
citation and quotation omitted), and this Court has held that the Fifth Amendment requires a “full and fair
hearing” of such evidence. See Huicochea-Gomez, 237 F.3d at 699. As a result, a hearing where an
immigration judge cannot be said to have fairly considered the evidence presented by the petitioners is one
where those petitioners have been deprived of due process. See, e.g., Amadou v. INS, 226 F.3d 724, 727
(6th Cir. 2000) (holding that where a translator prevented an Immigration Judge from understanding the
evidence presented, due process had been violated); Gonzalez v. Zurbrick, 45 F.2d 934, 936-37 (6th Cir.
1930) (same). Cf. Board of Regents of State Colls. v. Roth, 408 U.S. 564, 573 n.12 (1972) (noting that the
purpose of the required hearing in another liberty interest context is “to provide the person an opportunity
to clear his name.”).
        In cases where petitioners in immigration cases did not receive a fair hearing, this Court has
previously ordered new hearings before new immigration judges. See, e.g., Amadou, 226 F.3d at 727;
Gonzalez, 45 F.2d at 936-37; see also Perez-Lastor v. INS, 208 F.3d 773, 777 (9th Cir. 2000). In addition,
we have questioned immigration judges’ decisions when they are based on both misunderstandings of
translators and of testimony clearly presented by petitioners. See, e.g., Daneshvar v. Ashcroft, 355 F.3d 615,
622-23 (6th Cir. 2004).
         In the instant case, the immigration judge found the Ahmeds not credible on the basis of numerous
misunderstandings of their testimony. For example, one two-page-long exchange between the judge and
Shahid started with the judge misstating Shahid’s testimony by telling her that her answer to a question he
had asked regarding an attack on her mother-in-law was “1998,” when it had actually been “1978,” and then
confusedly questioning her about this until she finally was able to inform him that she had been correct
initially. Despite the fact that Shahid had always testified consistently that her mother-in-law was attacked
in 1978 and died in 1982, the immigration judge later held this against her in his credibility findings,
claiming that “[l]ater there was a vast confusion about when the mother-in-law might have died.” This is
just one example of the numerous misunderstandings that developed between the judge and the Ahmeds.
        The judge’s misunderstandings were not limited solely to Shahid’s testimony. When the judge
inquired whether the Ahmeds had complained about harassment by a political party, he asked “Did you go,
or did your wife go?” Mr. Ahmed replied “I am going.” The judge then asked “Your wife didn’t go?” and
Mr. Ahmed responded “No. She is going with me. Yes, she is going with me.” Yet the court later stated
that Mr. Ahmed at first had claimed his wife had not gone and that he had later changed his answer,
proceeding to find that Mr. Ahmed’s testimony was thus “replete with lies” and finding him to lack
credibility, despite the fact that any confusion over who had gone to complain was due to a mere
misunderstanding between the judge and Mr. Ahmed. Again, this is just one example of how the
“inconsistencies” and “contradictions” on which the judge based his determinations that “none of the
respondents are credible witnesses” were due to his own misunderstandings. And “instead of attempting
Nos. 03-3374/3375/3376/3377                              Ahmed, et al. v. Gonzales                                         Page 4


to reconcile the discrepancies, the [immigration judge] simply, and unjustifiably, assumed that there was
an inconsistency. . . .” Id. at 623 n.8.
         While there is no evidence that the judge intentionally confused the witnesses, as the Ahmeds claim,
it is clear that the judge himself created much of the confusion, as well as many of the contradictions and
inconsistencies in the record, and then held all of this against the Ahmeds. The record reflects that
Mr. Ahmed and his two sons testified consistently with each other and attempted to explain to the judge that
Shahid had been confused. Rather than recognizing that he had been the cause for much of Shahid’s
confusion, the judge cited the confusion as his main ground for his finding that Shahid, as well as the rest
of the Ahmeds, lacked credibility.
        Beyond these exchanges where the immigration judge himself was confused by testimony,
sometimes holding his own mishearing against the Ahmeds, it is not clear that there is a sufficient basis for
the judge’s finding of poor credibility. For example, the judge noted that when the older son was asked how
often elections are held he responded “I think every 4 years.” From this the judge concluded “[a]ccordingly,
this person just like his parents tended to make up things when they don’t know.” Cf. id. at 623 (“If
discrepancies cannot be viewed as attempts by the applicant to enhance his claims of persecution, they have
no bearing on credibility.” (citation omitted)); Sylla v. INS, 388 F.3d 924, 926 (6th Cir. 2004) (holding that
“minor and irrelevant inconsistencies cannot constitute the basis for an adverse credibility determination,”
and that such “variations, misstatements, or inconsistencies should have played no part in the decision of
the Immigration Judge or BIA.”).
        In the end, the immigration judge found that Shahid was “completely flummoxed,” and that, due to
her confusion, she had destroyed “the credibility, basically of everything else that these people have
presented.” In denying the Ahmeds’ asylum application he additionally found that “the two primary
respondents in this case, the husband and the wife, are just flat out not credible,” while referring to only one
statement (by Shahid) that was not a misunderstanding or inconsistency of the Immigration Judge’s own
creation.
        As a result, the Ahmeds did not receive a meaningful hearing of their case. This case falls under the
same principle that previously caused this Court to find that problems with an interpreter denied the
petitioner a fair hearing. Amadou, 226 F.3d at 727. In Amadou, the Board was on notice that there was a
problem with the interpreter due to several statements the interpreter made indicating that he was having
trouble understanding Amadou. We found that this misunderstanding prejudiced Amadou because the judge
denied Amadou’s application based on the testimony at the hearing. We concluded, under these
circumstances, that an alien is denied a full and fair hearing when he is ordered deported based upon
unreliable translation, because the immigration judge could not understand the testimony Amadou was
presenting to the court. Id. at 728.
       Here, although the misunderstanding of testimony was by the judge rather than the interpreter, the
underlying concerns are the same. The judge recognized and stated early on that he was having difficulty
understanding Shahid’s testimony. Despite this fact, he largely based his denial of asylum on credibility
findings based upon confused exchanges   which were instigated by his own failure to understand correctly
the Ahmeds’ answers to his questions.2 Indeed, in his oral decision the judge only noted one instance where
he may have misheard Shahid (confusing “months” with “weeks”), while basing his adverse credibility


    2
      In an alternate holding, the immigration judge stated that even if he had believed the Ahmeds’ story, they still were not
eligible for asylum. However, this alternate ruling is undermined by the judge’s confusion regarding the Ahmeds’ testimony; we
cannot say that the judge could fairly be said to have understood exactly what the Ahmeds’ story actually was. (Indeed, he noted
that “[b]ecause of the shifting nature of the stories in this case, it is almost impossible to distinctly summarize exactly what the
claims of the [Ahmeds] are.”) As a result, the alternate holding likewise results in a remand on due process grounds, since the
judge’s actions denied the Ahmeds the chance to ensure that the facts of their case were properly considered in a full and fair
hearing.
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finding on numerous other misunderstandings that he failed to recognize were at least partially his own
creation.
                                                   III.
        The proper remedy for this due process violation is to give the Ahmeds an opportunity to have their
case heard fairly. See, e.g., Amadou, 226 F.3d at 728. We therefore GRANT the petition for review,
VACATE the decision of the BIA and REMAND this case with instructions that the Ahmeds be provided
with a new hearing before a different immigration judge.
